UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[kaz7]

What made you think my post was aimed at you ? It was just a general comment about the changing theme of the thread. Channeling your inner scouse ? It's got to be about you ;-)

Haha it was my question,lucky I am half Cornish and yorkshire,not a bit of scouse in sight !

 

[projectriver]

But he wasn't the architect of the scheme. He didn't take up his role in late 2012 and suddenly decide that ADUG would take over the funding of the Etihad deal. Of course he would almost certainly have been aware of the details but I wouldn't expect him to carry the can if the appeal isn't upheld.

It's irrelevant that he inherited a position or a "scheme" as you call it. At any point he could have changed it, he negotiated the 2014 settlement personally (we know this), he has been Group CEO for EIGHT years, he will have been centrally involved in budgeting, FFP compliance, he has directed every step of the discussions with UEFA, he will have been central to the strategic approach to the leaks, the interaction with UEFA, the stance taken, the dispute strategy. The CEO takes credit for all the successes of the Group but naturally he takes responsibility for all its failings. How can it be any other way.

I'm not sure people comprehend what will happen if we lose. If you make the sort of allegations (implicit and explicit) we have made, go for CAS rather than settle with a "we will win" attitude and and then lose at CAS, the storm will be vicious and we will have no shield. We will be attacked from all angles both in the media and in the game itself with people looking to disrupt or do more serious harm.

 

[gouldybob]

I agree,soriano and maybe khaldoon would have to go along with several others

Don't see how you can expect people to go when we don't know the facts of the case. I'm not bothered if UEFA and their mates say we're guilty. I'd want to hear/see what comes out around the judgement before looking to pull a trigger

 

[Rammy Blue]

Amazing how this thread has changed since we've been to CAS. The start, it was fuck UEFA we haven't done anything wrong.
Now it's about sacking people within the Club because we might of. Amazing considering none of know one iota what is happening.

I think Sheikh Mansour should carry the can, after all it’s his fault he bought us.

 

[SilverFox2]

It's irrelevant that he inherited a position or a "scheme" as you call it. At any point he could have changed it, he negotiated the 2014 settlement personally (we know this), he has been Group CEO for EIGHT years, he will have been centrally involved in budgeting, FFP compliance, he has directed every step of the discussions with UEFA, he will have been central to the strategic approach to the leaks, the interaction with UEFA, the stance taken, the dispute strategy. The CEO takes credit for all the successes of the Group but naturally he takes responsibility for all its failings. How can it be any other way.

I'm not sure people comprehend what will happen if we lose. If you make the sort of allegations (implicit and explicit) we have made, go for CAS rather than settle with a "we will win" attitude and and then lose at CAS, the storm will be vicious and we will have no shield. We will be attacked from all angles both in the media and in the game itself with people looking to disrupt or do more serious harm.

So do you think our "CAS as a first step" statement was a thought out strategy or was the outcome you predict not considered?

 

[CC1]

It's irrelevant that he inherited a position or a "scheme" as you call it. At any point he could have changed it, he negotiated the 2014 settlement personally (we know this), he has been Group CEO for EIGHT years, he will have been centrally involved in budgeting, FFP compliance, he has directed every step of the discussions with UEFA, he will have been central to the strategic approach to the leaks, the interaction with UEFA, the stance taken, the dispute strategy. The CEO takes credit for all the successes of the Group but naturally he takes responsibility for all its failings. How can it be any other way.

I'm not sure people comprehend what will happen if we lose. If you make the sort of allegations (implicit and explicit) we have made, go for CAS rather than settle with a "we will win" attitude and and then lose at CAS, the storm will be vicious and we will have no shield. We will be attacked from all angles both in the media and in the game itself with people looking to disrupt or do more serious harm.

Ah well. That’s really cheered me up - NOT

 

[CharliesRightPeg]

MD one of the main journalists baiting city fans over this on twitter has just blocked a few hundred blues en mass

I wonder if that's a sign

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Ah well. That’s really cheered me up - NOT

If I've understood things correctly , why did we not accept Etihad as "related party " if UEFA didn't think the amount excessive?

 

[projectriver]

MD one of the main journalists baiting city fans over this on twitter has just blocked a few hundred blues en mass

I wonder if that's a sign

I've had almost no interaction with him aside from one ok DM exchange where he constantly made me out to be some delusional idiot but I'm blocked too. I never followed and had muted but made sure I blocked him just in case!

 

[projectriver]

If I've understood things correctly , why did we not accept Etihad as "related party " if UEFA didn't think the amount excessive?

We didn't accept anything at that time and then all became moot because we settled.