We are not alone....are we?

This subject fascinates me (not the tinfoil hat brigade) but the complexity of the question itself and how can we actually answer it.

Our way of looking to the stars is limited to how Humans think and what we believe is logical.

How many other species on earth do we interact with or even understand their communication?
Can we talk with fish? birds? any other mammals? insects? etc

So what makes us think we can communicate or recognise any communication from distant galaxies?

25%-27% of the universe is made up of dark matter, we don't even know what dark matter is.

We are still finding new species on this planet (71 in 2019) and many areas here are unexplored.

Our view of technology may be equal to a new born baby in the eyes of (potential) species throughout space.

If aliens were to discover us they may well treat us like we do other creatures, on this planet, ignore us because we are irrelevant.

As Professor Stephen Hawking stated:

"If aliens visit us, the outcome would be much as when Columbus landed in America, which didn't turn out well for the Native Americans," .
Prof Hawking thinks that, rather than actively trying to communicate with extra-terrestrials, humans should do everything possible to avoid contact.
He explained: "We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet."
 
Ban-jani said:
Intelligent life that has colonised the galaxy almost certainly will use stars to harness energy and yet not a single galaxy’s star light has changed, this is mint boggling to realise.
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Is this some Manc-speak evolution of the use of the word ‘mint’ that has come around in the years since I moved away?

Some good stuff on this thread. My own take is that the universe is teeming with life. Most of it very small, basic and not too ‘intelligent’, some of it way beyond our own intelligence and all of it undetectable, or intelligible to us.
 
roman totale said:
Is this some Manc-speak evolution of the use of the word ‘mint’ that has come around in the years since I moved away?

Some good stuff on this thread. My own take is that the universe is teeming with life. Most of it very small, basic and not too ‘intelligent’, some of it way beyond our own intelligence and all of it undetectable, or intelligible to us.
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I do use “mint” but that was a typo, I meant to say “mind”.

There may well be life out there but it’s only at a very basic level.

We’ve been looking for radio, microwave and laser technology for a while now and we’d have definitely received something if intelligent life existed, the notion that it’s too intelligent is a false one imo, they still adhere to the same principles and many would be using the three above technologies at some point in their history.

It would take us about 3 millions years to colonise the whole galaxy, from now, that’s absolutely no time at all, considering the galaxy is billions of years old. If life and intelligent life did exist elsewhere, it would be incredibly likely that someone else existed before us and had already done that, the fact there’s no sign of ET anywhere means it isn’t there.
 
Fernster said:
This subject fascinates me (not the tinfoil hat brigade) but the complexity of the question itself and how can we actually answer it.

Our way of looking to the stars is limited to how Humans think and what we believe is logical.

How many other species on earth do we interact with or even understand their communication?
Can we talk with fish? birds? any other mammals? insects? etc

So what makes us think we can communicate or recognise any communication from distant galaxies?

25%-27% of the universe is made up of dark matter, we don't even know what dark matter is.

We are still finding new species on this planet (71 in 2019) and many areas here are unexplored.

Our view of technology may be equal to a new born baby in the eyes of (potential) species throughout space.

If aliens were to discover us they may well treat us like we do other creatures, on this planet, ignore us because we are irrelevant.

As Professor Stephen Hawking stated:

"If aliens visit us, the outcome would be much as when Columbus landed in America, which didn't turn out well for the Native Americans," .
Prof Hawking thinks that, rather than actively trying to communicate with extra-terrestrials, humans should do everything possible to avoid contact.
He explained: "We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet."
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Roughly 68% of the universe is dark energy. Dark matter makes up about 27%. The rest - everything on Earth, everything ever observed with all of our instruments, all normal matter - adds up to less than 5% of the universe.

it’s us and what we call the universe that are the abnormality.
 
Pell said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine..._LVZHzUBCBdAohc7gDhrAj7eE7pnNBVllLuTZuxbcFSzo

The day UFOs stopped play

Sixty years ago a football match ground to a halt when unidentified flying objects were spotted above a stadium in Florence. Did aliens come to earth? If not, what were they?

Very interesting.
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This passage is the best from the article-

Could it have come from a UFO? "It's an absolutely silly idea. Science totally rejects this idea," says US Air Force pilot-turned-astronomer James McGaha. From the Grasslands Observatory in South Eastern Arizona he has spent more than 40,000 hours staring at the night sky. Not to mention the additional hours he's spent in the cockpit of US fighter jets.

"You know the whole UFO phenomenon is nothing but myth, magic and superstition, wrapped up in this idea that somehow aliens are coming here either to save us or destroy us," he says.
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denislawsbackheel said:
Roughly 68% of the universe is dark energy. Dark matter makes up about 27%. The rest - everything on Earth, everything ever observed with all of our instruments, all normal matter - adds up to less than 5% of the universe.

it’s us and what we call the universe that are the abnormality.
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Absolutely spot on. There is so much unknown mass out there we only know exists as light is bent by gravity. Would be an interesting thought though if there are aliens in their shrouding themselves from us.

But it blows the mind to think what exactly is in the rest of what we can't see. Unless our societies sort out our shit soon by not polluting oceans with plastic or pumping poison into our air and rivers though, nature will have long claimed her planet back and it will all have been meaningless anyway.
 
Barcon said:
Strange that there seems to be less sightings now that everybody has a camera on them at all times.
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Like ghosts mate.

There’s never been a ghost caught on an iPhone and they only appear when people are half asleep.
 
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