Thiago Alcantara

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He is indeed and has been so for us. If he has some legs around him, he can do all the Guardiola wants from that position, as can Rodri. The 2 of them together doesn't work but one of them with kDB, Bernardo or Foden would be just fine.

Gundogan is not and has never been a DM. Asking him to play there is foolish. He hasn't got a tackle in him. Don't be ridiculous
 
It was only two weeks ago that the media were lauding our Kev when he won the Player of the Year Award and everyone in the media and Sky were saying he was the worlds best midfielder ... until now.
Now this fucker is being crowned as the greatest midfielder in the world.
I wonder why ? Can`t think why all of a sudden its changed.
 
It was only two weeks ago that the media were lauding our Kev when he won the Player of the Year Award and everyone in the media and Sky were saying he was the worlds best midfielder ... until now.
Now this fucker is being crowned as the greatest midfielder in the world.
I wonder why ? Can`t think why all of a sudden its changed.

That’s not the case though, is it? They’re two different players, but definitely in the top 3 of their respective positions. Nobody has directly compared the two to denigrate one at the expense of the other. They’re just magnificent footballers who’ve demonstrated their worth year on year. Nobody rates De Bruyne more than me, he’s an incredible player. But his game is a different one to Thiago’s. Hence direct comparisons serve little in the way of advancing the debate.
 
That’s not the case though, is it? They’re two different players, but definitely in the top 3 of their respective positions. Nobody has directly compared the two to denigrate one at the expense of the other. They’re just magnificent footballers who’ve demonstrated their worth year on year. Nobody rates De Bruyne more than me, he’s an incredible player. But his game is a different one to Thiago’s. Hence direct comparisons serve little in the way of advancing the debate.

Sure it wont be long before the usual dipper freaks hail him as the world's best all-round midfield player .................ever !
 
Sure it wont be long before the usual dipper freaks hail him as the world's best all-round midfield player .................ever !

Every club has their own band of assorted freaks, Colin, it’s just us and United’s that bark the loudest through weight of numbers. The fact is though that he’s a world class midfielder with a pedigree that rivals anybody’s in the game. How he’ll pan out is anybody’s guess but if he does well, any sensible fan from any club will laud him. Just like they do with De Bruyne.
 
Gundogan is not and has never been a DM. Asking him to play there is foolish. He hasn't got a tackle in him. Don't be ridiculous

Tackling isn't the main purpose of his role. Same as Rodri. Guardiola isn't looking for a NDJ or Fernandinho clone.

Gundogan has done fine in that deeper role when he has legs around him.
 
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