Huntingdon Train Incident - Reports of multiple stabbings

The only information the police or politicians owe us in the immediate aftermath of an incident is anything that alerts us to ongoing/immediate threats so that people can be kept safe.

However the toxic combination of social media, the 24 hr news cycle, malign politicians and bad actors is sending large numbers of people doolally.

We have got to the point where the authorities not only have to frame the information they release to keep people in the vicinity safe but also to minimise the risk of wider public disorder.

It's a pretty disgraceful state of affairs and it's not on the police and it's not on the government. It's definitely on a minority of people who profit from fermenting unease and unrest but it's also on us the public for allowing ourselves to be manipulated in this way.
 
M16 citeh said:
I agree mate! Should come out instantly. But the legal process should not bend to suit the needs of 'trial by social media' or just to combat misinformation. The authorities have a protocol for releasing info for a reason. I guess the government needs to come down much harder on social media misinformation...
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I am furious that the race and place of Birth was given out just because arseholes on twitter, especially the owner, and meta stir things up.

Trial by American Tech Billionaires.

Sick of it
 
I think some people believe that things always remain status quo and laws are perfectly created to last for all time. If knife crime continues to spiral, and safety on public transport at public events and in public areas cannot be guaranteed, it's very likely that people who would never normally consider carrying a weapon of any kind for self-defence may consider doing so. At present our lawmakers consider that self-defence is not a valid reason to carry a weapon, and this is unlikely to change.

We hear the constant mantra from those in government that we, the public, need to be more vigilant. That's of no comfort when somebody's running at you wielding a knife or machete. Carrying a weapon in the UK isn't a protected right, however people will inevitably do anything necessary to protect themselves and those around them - it's human nature. If there isn't a substantial crack down on knife crime and the culture surrounding it (irrespective of race or ideology), I wouldn't be surprised to learn in 20-30 years time that a citizen in the UK carrying a weapon for self-defence becomes the norm.

I hope it doesn't get to this stage but something needs to drastically change. It doesn't fill me with confidence to know that the only 'weapon' you or your partner can legally carry in self-defence is a rape-alarm. Good luck with that against a machete wielding maniac.
 
I bailed from this thread very quickly but I am coming back in to see where we are up to.
The last I read was 2 illegal immigrant Islamic terrorists had come over on a small boat and were now looking to kill every white person in the UK. Farage was the only man who could save the western world and posters were going to hide in their fridge until he was elected.
I assume this is a different stabbing to the one in the news where one of the 2 men, a British born male, has been released very quickly as he was totally innocent. The second British born male is still in custody but the anti terrorist police have gone home as its nowt to do with them.

Bluemoon at its finest.
 
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That's the guy. The size of that knife is ridiculous
 
threespires said:
The only information the police or politicians owe us in the immediate aftermath of an incident is anything that alerts us to ongoing/immediate threats so that people can be kept safe.

However the toxic combination of social media, the 24 hr news cycle, malign politicians and bad actors is sending large numbers of people doolally.

We have got to the point where the authorities not only have to frame the information they release to keep people in the vicinity safe but also to minimise the risk of wider public disorder.

It's a pretty disgraceful state of affairs and it's not on the police and it's not on the government. It's definitely on a minority of people who profit from fermenting unease and unrest but it's also on us the public for allowing ourselves to be manipulated in this way.
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Absolutely nailed it!
 
where are the "concerned" citizens of Huntingdon?

My guess is that its too cold and wet for their concerns - the assailant was only of any use in August
 
It always strikes me as rather odd that so many people slept through austerity-or blindly accepted it.

We are reaping the consequences of cuts to all of our public services-specifically here health and mental health services-which were decimated under the last Govt.

I dreaded a mental health prisoner being in the cells when I went on duty because trying to find a bed for somebody-often anywhere in the country was nigh on impossible. It was a constant battle with the NHS to find somewhere suitable for them to go-rather than be in a concrete box.

But its all been boiled down to what the colour of the person is.

So much police time is tied up with mental health incidents-people that shouldn't really be in the cells or in the criminal justice system but dealt with elsewhere in a proper functioning modern society.

Its an appalling state of affairs-but I guess the usual soft headed will be painting roundabouts and sticking cheap tacky flags up.
 
youngbob said:
Two British nationals arrested but that's only been confirmed after 12 hours of wanton racist speculation about it being from "small boat people", all from the usual suspects on the usual websites. Even now it's been confirmed that the two attackers were British nationals, Tommy Robinson is sharing content that suggests he "refuses to believe the lies".

All last night you had blue-ticked right-wing accounts on Twitter, screaming in capital letters that the stabbing had been "confirmed as a terrorist incident" and that "the attackers were shouting Allahu Akbar". Now it turns out there was no terrorist element (within legal definitions) and that the attackers aren't asylum seekers from small boats.

We are living in dangerous, dangerous times. It was the same after the Southport attack, when a fake Asian/Muslim name was leaked to the press by a website in Pakistan, and nobody knows who did it - only the website it came from. A nationwide riot in the UK, all caused by somebody making a stupid online comment 3,000 miles away.

Social media is a cancer. The police and authorities need to be allowed to do their jobs, but we have online vigilantes flooding the zone with speculation and misinformation about ongoing, developing incidents. If they name the attacker quickly, it's a conspiracy to harm whites; if they don't name the attacker quickly, it's a conspiracy to protect Asians.

And there will be people on the left reveling in the fact that it's a British national, too. It's one thing to feel relieved that it's not an asylum seeker - for fear of more mass violence on our streets and more angry protests at hotels - but it's another thing to point and laugh and tease at the other side. All of it is in bad faith and it's getting us nowhere.
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Agreed on the last parts - there's 2 sets of people waiting to comment on any post about abuse or violence which for me, transcends any well meaning into political point scoring being your base moral compass - which feels lacking in compassion from both sides.
 
bert38 said:
It always strikes me as rather odd that so many people slept through austerity-or blindly accepted it.

We are reaping the consequences of cuts to all of our public services-specifically here health and mental health services-which were decimated under the last Govt.

I dreaded a mental health prisoner being in the cells when I went on duty because trying to find a bed for somebody-often anywhere in the country was nigh on impossible. It was a constant battle with the NHS to find somewhere suitable for them to go-rather than be in a concrete box.

But its all been boiled down to what the colour of the person is.

So much police time is tied up with mental health incidents-people that shouldn't really be in the cells or in the criminal justice system but dealt with elsewhere in a proper functioning modern society.

Its an appalling state of affairs-but I guess the usual soft headed will be painting roundabouts and sticking cheap tacky flags up.
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In the last few years working in mental health I've seen people moved into supported living/communities who probably would/should have been in more secure accommodation had the infrastructure to provide and support them been there.
 
blue b4 the moon said:
Everyone who was pushing that narrative is long gone from the thread and waiting for their next opportunity.
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That's the thing that pisses me off, it's like their brain has a one way filter.

Event happens, Assume it fits their agenda and tell everyone about it.

-> If it does then I told everyone I was right!
-> If it doesn't, pretend it never happened and not admit I was prejudiced.


You can't reason with them because they tune out anything that doesn't fit the narrative they want to be true.
 
domalino said:
That's the thing that pisses me off, it's like their brain has a one way filter.

Event happens, Assume it fits their agenda and tell everyone about it.

-> If it does then I told everyone I was right!
-> If it doesn't, pretend it never happened and not admit I was prejudiced.


You can't reason with them because they tune out anything that doesn't fit the narrative they want to be true.
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The problem here is that someone running amok with a knife trying to kill people fits a very well-trodden path these days.
 
just spoke to my old man about yesterday's game-he then said someone yesterday said to him 'too many blacks in the country'..

That's what it boils down to-racist cunts, and there's loads of them, all emboldened by the last decade. Too thick to think.

Checks TV-frogface platformed again.
 
domalino said:
That's the thing that pisses me off, it's like their brain has a one way filter.

Event happens, Assume it fits their agenda and tell everyone about it.

-> If it does then I told everyone I was right!
-> If it doesn't, pretend it never happened and not admit I was prejudiced.


You can't reason with them because they tune out anything that doesn't fit the narrative they want to be true.
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It's probably the main reason why I came off X last year. I couldn't be doing with all the bullshit being spouted around the time of the riots. The mental gymnastics from some when it turned out the killer wasn't an asylum seeker who had come off a boat was off the scale. That and I was also fed up of arguing with opposition football fans. None of these were people that I was ever likely to meet so you get to the stage where you think what's the point. And that's assuming they were all people of course as I'm guessing a fair few were bots.

15 months on and I have to say that I don't miss X one bit. It's also freed up a fair bit of spare time so a win win all round
 
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