Wolves Birmingham 64/65
Flamengo Fluminese 12/13 I think that was due financial irregularities so not sure it counts.
Yeah I was streching to find examples ;-)Not in Europe, those two. My initial post about this issue was limited to Europe. I'm sure it must have happened world wide.
And Birmingham is not a two-club town, although that's interesting to learn.
My point, really, was how devastating I would think it is (and will be, in the case of Sheffield), for a city to lose both your clubs to a lower division. And the third tier at that (if it happens).
When u****d got relegated in 1974 Norwich went down too, between them dismaying a large swathe of East Anglia.Was just looking at the table and thinking. If both Sheffield clubs go down — and it's highly possible — that that would I suppose be the first time that they had both been relegated from the same division (whichever one that was) in the same season?
Now, are there any other cities that have lost both their clubs to relegation from the same division in the same season?
Birmingham certainly is a two club townNot in Europe, those two. My initial post about this issue was limited to Europe. I'm sure it must have happened world wide.
And Birmingham is not a two-club town, although that's interesting to learn.
My point, really, was how devastating I would think it is (and will be, in the case of Sheffield), for a city to lose both your clubs to a lower division. And the third tier at that (if it happens).
Anyone old enough to recall the wool city derby.
Most relegated team in PL history suggests they’re run very badly, at least in a sporting context.Poor Norwich are in a frightful state. The fans have their wish and will now have a new manager, understandably given Manning’s woeful record, but irrespective of who is appointed, they’ll start the 2026-27 season with a new manager for the 6th consecutive season.
By dint of that they must also be a club with a decent record of promotions, too, so not all catastrophe. That said, I doubt they'll be adding to their record soon.Most relegated team in PL history suggests they’re run very badly, at least in a sporting context.
They’re what I hate in a championship team, to be honest. Get promoted, sell your best players, get relegated, take the parachute money, get promoted, sell your best players, get relegated, take the parachute money.By dint of that they must also be a club with a decent record of promotions, too, so not all catastrophe. That said, I doubt they'll be adding to their record soon.
The West Brom bit caught my eye as I've always rather liked them. West Bromwich Albion. I wonder, do rival fans ever refer to them as "Perfidious Albion" or is that too arcane a lyric for 21st century football crowds' songbooks? "Same old West Brom, always perfidious", perhaps? It was old Bishop Bossuet (with whom I believe you're familiar) who used it against the English back in the 17th century and it became widely popular in the early 1900s, though I recognize it might not have made the leap from a political insult to a footballing one.
Yes, Bossuet used the phrase and my old notes show that he wrote "Ah, la perfide Albion, la foi du Sauveur y est abordee", probably referring to the Stuart Restoration in 1660 and French hopes that the closet Catholic Charles II would roll back a hundred years of Protestantism in England. But Wiki now tells me that the phrase was around even earlier, in the 13th century, so my guess is that it goes all the way back to King Harold breaking his vow to William by taking the crown in 1066.I didn't know that it was Bossuet who coined that phrase. I would have thought that it was already very popular with the French from the revolutionary period onward, and right through the nineteenth-century, when Britain got the reputation for diplomacy without honour (but then, is diplomacy ever honourable?). Lord Liverpool is supposed to have said, “Britain has no friends — only interests.”
I too have got a soft spot for West Brom, don't exactly know why. But it so happens that Bert Millichip's son sat right behind me at school, and plied me with sweets to get us through I think the most boring English classes I ever had to sit through. Quite staggeringly boring. We were quite good mates for a while. One day a couple of West Brom players visited the school, came down onto the muddy football fields and chatted to us for a bit. We were in awe. Millichip was of course the chairman of WBA, and later chairman of the FA.
Yes, Bossuet used the phrase and my old notes show that he wrote "Ah, la perfide Albion, la foi du Sauveur y est abordee", probably referring to the Stuart Restoration in 1660 and French hopes that the closet Catholic Charles II would roll back a hundred years of Protestantism in England. But Wiki now tells me that the phrase was around even earlier, in the 13th century, so my guess is that it goes all the way back to King Harold breaking his vow to William by taking the crown in 1066.
Returning to WBA (in what is nominally a football forum!) if no one calls them "perfidious" do their own fans actually use their official nickname and shout "Come on you Throstles"? Doesn't quite inspire awe, does it? But then neither do other clubs' names: "Come on you Potters" (Stoke), or "Cottagers" (Fulham); and as for "Come on you Canaries" at Norwich, no I can't see it.
P.S. it's good to know that there was at least one time when Liverpool was patriotic.
won't be long before there'll be no mention of Coventry in the Championship thread!This thread needs to get back on track……..
fuck off Coventry!
Yes hopefully they'll get relegatedwon't be long before there'll be no mention of Coventry in the Championship thread!
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This thread needs to get back on track……..
fuck off Coventry!