Liverpool Thread | 2025/26 | Salah fall out (p264)

[GaudinoMotors]

It was a complex scenario and you need to take into account was football still was back then. Our clubs were still banned from Europe due to multiple instances of crowd trouble (plus obviously one very high profile one by Liverpool), fences had become normal. Criticising the FA for the fences is harsh, as they were just responding to what went on on the terraces, and sometimes spilled into the pitch. That said, when you throw in event mismanagement, they became the problem.

I have no absolute hatred of Liverpool and they were clearly wronged and suffered. That they had to fight for the truth is horrendous and they should be proud of their persistence. However, in my eyes the report has always seemed to just have been "tell them want they want to hear so they'll go away".

Every high profile match back then saw fans sneaking in without tickets, doubling-up through turnstiles. If the Liverpool fans didn't do that in this game, it'll have been the only big game around then when they didnt.

The thing to remember though above all, was that they weren't different in doing that. That was how it was back then. There were numerous other close shaves at other games, it could have been any of us.

But it wasn't.

 

[Big mals fedora]

It was a complex scenario and you need to take into account was football still was back then. Our clubs were still banned from Europe due to multiple instances of crowd trouble (plus obviously one very high profile one by Liverpool), fences had become normal. Criticising the FA for the fences is harsh, as they were just responding to what went on on the terraces, and sometimes spilled into the pitch. That said, when you throw in event mismanagement, they became the problem.

I have no absolute hatred of Liverpool and they were clearly wronged and suffered. That they had to fight for the truth is horrendous and they should be proud of their persistence. However, in my eyes the report has always seemed to just have been "tell them want they want to hear so they'll go away".

Every high profile match back then saw fans sneaking in without tickets, doubling-up through turnstiles. If the Liverpool fans didn't do that in this game, it'll have been the only big game around then when they didnt.

The thing to remember though above all, was that they weren't different in doing that. That was how it was back then. There were numerous other close shaves at other games, it could have been any of us.

Could have been like that at notts county on that bank holiday when we needed win for promotion. Packed in like sardines and I don’t know anyone who didn’t jib in.

 

[Kippax77]

I enjoy there pain almost as much as I do the Rags. Two cheeks of the same arse.
Both of them are the gift that keeps giving this season.
I wonder what they blame tonight's dropped points on ?

Jota?.... again

 

[mattcity5]

But it wasn't.

So?

 

[Cellarite]

Shame Brian Clough couldn't testify.

What makes you say that?

Was Clough outside the Leppings Lane prior to kick off or was he in the Forest dressing room giving a team talk?

Was he in the police control box for the first 6 minutes of the match or was he on the touchline managing his players?

Was he on the pitch carrying advertising boards in the aftermath or was he back in the dressing room?

Was he in the local community hall when one of the victims was wrongly announced dead when he was in fact alive or was he on a coach back to Nottingham?

Clough wrote about that day in his autobiography and spoke on a chat show about it. Much as I love the character he was, it always struck me as out of order that he felt the need to be critical of Liverpool fans over Hillsborough.

 

[Protein Junkie]

Florian Worst had his goal taken off him last night and given as an OG - luvverrly.

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

Probably get the assist so he is up and running. An assist from a shot that was heading for a throw in.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Wasn’t this all concluded last year! Why is it in the news again?

It's Liverpool. It's not even a throw away comment that...From salah and his broken arms to Robertson being offside.. They are just big mard arses, and the media encourage them

 

[Marvin.]

Unusually strong stuff from BBC Football, "A shadow of his imperious self - Van Dijk fights decline"

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[Saxmundham Blue]

Liverpool look uncannily like we did at this stage last season.

They have also made the same mistakes we made, namely hanging on to ageing/declining players rather than being ruthless and it is now biting them on the arse.

The Saudis offered £200m for Salah (33) towards the end of last season - Liverpool gave him a new 2 year contract in April 2025

VVD (34) has been on the decline since Pickford did him in, he was bang average last season - Al-Nassr offered £70m, Liverpool gave him a new 2 year contract 6 days after Salah signed.

The Saudis offered £200m for De Bruyne (32) after the CL final in 2023 when he had a torn hamstring. I love him to bits but he was never the same player again and was never 100% fit

Real Madrid offered £100m for Rodri (30) 3 months ago while he was still in recovery from an ACL. It is hard to believe he will get back to his previous level.

Real Madrid offered £125m (!!!!) for the frustrating Raheem Sterling in 2020. Went to Chelsea in 2022 for £47m, in the last 3 and a bit seasons has made 100 appearances and scored 20 goals and has now virtually disappeared.

That is £695m down the pan between us and the scousers.

There is no room for sentiment in football.

 

[bluejon]

Liverpool look uncannily like we did at this stage last season.

They have also made the same mistakes we made, namely hanging on to ageing/declining players rather than being ruthless and it is now biting them on the arse.

The Saudis offered £200m for Salah (33) towards the end of last season - Liverpool gave him a new 2 year contract in April 2025

VVD (34) has been on the decline since Pickford did him in, he was bang average last season - Al-Nassr offered £70m, Liverpool gave him a new 2 year contract 6 days after Salah signed.

The Saudis offered £200m for De Bruyne (32) after the CL final in 2023 when he had a torn hamstring. I love him to bits but he was never the same player again and was never 100% fit

Real Madrid offered £100m for Rodri (30) 3 months ago while he was still in recovery from an ACL. It is hard to believe he will get back to his previous level.

Real Madrid offered £125m (!!!!) for the frustrating Raheem Sterling in 2020. Went to Chelsea in 2022 for £47m, in the last 3 and a bit seasons has made 100 appearances and scored 20 goals and has now virtually disappeared.

That is £695m down the pan between us and the scousers.

There is no room for sentiment in football.

Hindsight is a fantastic thing.

 

[TheBlueCat]

Wasn’t this all concluded last year! Why is it in the news again?

The IOPC who were investigating the conduct of the police on the day, released its official final report yesterday. That’s the reason the media are across it again..

 

[give it to gordon]

Liverpool look uncannily like we did at this stage last season.

They have also made the same mistakes we made, namely hanging on to ageing/declining players rather than being ruthless and it is now biting them on the arse.

The Saudis offered £200m for Salah (33) towards the end of last season - Liverpool gave him a new 2 year contract in April 2025

VVD (34) has been on the decline since Pickford did him in, he was bang average last season - Al-Nassr offered £70m, Liverpool gave him a new 2 year contract 6 days after Salah signed.

The Saudis offered £200m for De Bruyne (32) after the CL final in 2023 when he had a torn hamstring. I love him to bits but he was never the same player again and was never 100% fit

Real Madrid offered £100m for Rodri (30) 3 months ago while he was still in recovery from an ACL. It is hard to believe he will get back to his previous level.

Real Madrid offered £125m (!!!!) for the frustrating Raheem Sterling in 2020. Went to Chelsea in 2022 for £47m, in the last 3 and a bit seasons has made 100 appearances and scored 20 goals and has now virtually disappeared.

That is £695m down the pan between us and the scousers.

There is no room for sentiment in football.

Liverpool would never sell to The Saudis and accept dirty oil money and piss poor human rights

 

[Bluewonder]

Liverpool look uncannily like we did at this stage last season.

They have also made the same mistakes we made, namely hanging on to ageing/declining players rather than being ruthless and it is now biting them on the arse.

The Saudis offered £200m for Salah (33) towards the end of last season - Liverpool gave him a new 2 year contract in April 2025

VVD (34) has been on the decline since Pickford did him in, he was bang average last season - Al-Nassr offered £70m, Liverpool gave him a new 2 year contract 6 days after Salah signed.

The Saudis offered £200m for De Bruyne (32) after the CL final in 2023 when he had a torn hamstring. I love him to bits but he was never the same player again and was never 100% fit

Real Madrid offered £100m for Rodri (30) 3 months ago while he was still in recovery from an ACL. It is hard to believe he will get back to his previous level.

Real Madrid offered £125m (!!!!) for the frustrating Raheem Sterling in 2020. Went to Chelsea in 2022 for £47m, in the last 3 and a bit seasons has made 100 appearances and scored 20 goals and has now virtually disappeared.

That is £695m down the pan between us and the scousers.

There is no room for sentiment in football.

It's easy to create an argument when you're making up transfer fees.

 

[adrianr]

Is this the first time we've not wanted Salah to go to AFCON?

(Not a popular opinion around here but I still think Wirtz is really good, and eventually they're going to figure out how best to build the team around him).

 

[ninjamonkey]

Liverpool look uncannily like we did at this stage last season.

They have also made the same mistakes we made, namely hanging on to ageing/declining players rather than being ruthless and it is now biting them on the arse.

The Saudis offered £200m for Salah (33) towards the end of last season - Liverpool gave him a new 2 year contract in April 2025

VVD (34) has been on the decline since Pickford did him in, he was bang average last season - Al-Nassr offered £70m, Liverpool gave him a new 2 year contract 6 days after Salah signed.

The Saudis offered £200m for De Bruyne (32) after the CL final in 2023 when he had a torn hamstring. I love him to bits but he was never the same player again and was never 100% fit

Real Madrid offered £100m for Rodri (30) 3 months ago while he was still in recovery from an ACL. It is hard to believe he will get back to his previous level.

Real Madrid offered £125m (!!!!) for the frustrating Raheem Sterling in 2020. Went to Chelsea in 2022 for £47m, in the last 3 and a bit seasons has made 100 appearances and scored 20 goals and has now virtually disappeared.

That is £695m down the pan between us and the scousers.

There is no room for sentiment in football.

Your argument is very valid but you ruin it by coming up with exaggerated, made up numbers. None of those offers were ever made.

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

The IOPC who were investigating the conduct of the police on the day, released its official final report yesterday. That’s the reason the media are across it again..

Only a couple of dozen more final reports to go then.

 

[malg]

Is this the first time we've not wanted Salah to go to AFCON?

(Not a popular opinion around here but I still think Wirtz is really good, and eventually they're going to figure out how best to build the team around him).

He doesn't go from one of the most sought after players to dog shit. I don't know what the answer is but I'm sure his form will turn round.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Is this the first time we've not wanted Salah to go to AFCON?

(Not a popular opinion around here but I still think Wirtz is really good, and eventually they're going to figure out how best to build the team around him).

Steve Daley says hi...

 

[TheBlueCat]

Only a couple of dozen more final reports to go then.

I’m sure it will be a quality, thorough piece of work. :(