Employment law

[Coatigan]

Have you raised this with anyone yet @blueinsa ? Even to set a time for a discussion on it.

 

[oldius]

As others have stated, you need to ask some questions, that can either be informal or you can raise a grievance on the basis you have not been treated equally. They may say you can't work from home and the other guy can but the point here is to let them know you are aware and you are not happy, they may change their policy on that basis?
Good luck and let us know how you get on.

I think that this is spot on.
There is possibly no way to tackle this from the perspective of employment law as you have no proof that those paid during their 'illness' were not working. However, raising the issue could invoke questions, and an awareness that some people are discriminated against in relation to sick pay, and that is not right.
The idea of no sick-pay if you are ill is really an anachronism, IMO.
People taking the piss is often used by employers as an excuse that allows them to continue the practice of 'waiting days', but it is a separate issue - we deal with employees who take the piss (patterns are usually easily found) but the pervading culture should be that all employees are treated well, and not penalised when unfortunate circumstance befalls them.

 

[oldius]

Been working for 2 organisations for 35 years and never not known sick pay.

Is that a regular thing for what sounds like a large company for a full time employee?

Sounds a bit shit mate, best of luck.

It is VERY common.
It was dressed as 'waiting days' in two major leisure industry employers that I worked for. Both made profits into the hundreds of millions of pounds in just the sector of the conglomerates that I worked within, yet the only 'waiting' was done by employees on the minimum wage - off three days or less, no sick pay. Off more than three days, statutory sick pay. I think company sick pay began after one week of absence.

 

[ell]

I got told early doors, more than 5 days sick in a year and you are out the door.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

I got told early doors, more than 5 days sick in a year and you are out the door.

Not a council job then ;)

 

[DelToro]

Plenty of organizations allow office based staff to WFH but don’t extend this to operational staff. The trick is for mgt to reassure themselves that those WFH are actually doing so and not wanking themselves senselesss under the duvet.

 

[blueinsa]

Have you raised this with anyone yet @blueinsa ? Even to set a time for a discussion on it.

I’ve spoken to HR who have said they will speak to senior management and let me know outcome.

I was also docked 2 hours overtime as they claimed I’d not worked a full week. Thankfully, after me very forcefully contesting their decision, they’ve apologised and paid it.

 

[Magicpole]

Do you have visibility to see if those who were WFH were actually working?

Progressing this could make you very unpopular with those who were WFH

Why should he not question why he wasn't offered it? And how the people who are WFH, were selected? He has bills to pay too. If it was me I would ask the questions. If those who were chosen, had issues with that, I wouldn't give a fuck. You have to stand up for yourself. If you don't it will eat away at you, well it would me. You either let people treat you like a mug, or you dont. Would be my take on it. You dont have to have visibility to see if they did anything work related. You just need to know why you lost 2.5 days and they didnt.

 

[Kompany Car]

Jesus mate get another job, unless you actually own the business or get paid a hell of a lot of money, they dont deserve decent employees.

What happens if you have a serious illness, heart attack, cancer etc.

Maybe ive been lucky, but can honestly say ive never heard any decent business do something like that.

 

[city2]

Have they paid you previously when you have been ill, if it says in the rule book that they don’t pay you then I can’t see them changing because it will open a can of worms and also people will start taking the full week off to make sure they get paid.

 

[ballbag]

Hope you're feeling better now. Your place of employment sounds like a nightmare though. Especially this time of year, or any time of year these days. Hope it all gets sorted soon.