Media discussion - 2025/26

asahartford1 said:
Ian Hart a Brighton fan chatting on Talksport about his book after 50 years of supporting Brighton was interesting. He talked about fans moaning after the last few years of unprecedented success, and also leaving early to get away from the Stadium. I have seen that before somewhere.
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Treat fans like customers and, surprisingly enough, they behave like customers…
If nothing changes soon, it’ll become a bit like rugby, in that people will go and watch, but very few will actually care who wins.
Once that happens, they can have their non relegation, 4 quarters, bell in the ball, crossbars lighting up or some other as yet un-described horror, but they’ll never get back what they’ve lost.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Treat fans like customers and, surprisingly enough, they behave like customers…
If nothing changes soon, it’ll become a bit like rugby, in that people will go and watch, but very few will actually care who wins.
Once that happens, they can have their non relegation, 4 quarters, bell in the ball, crossbars lighting up or some other as yet un-described horror, but they’ll never get back what they’ve lost.
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Ian Hart is nothing like that. He is a lifelong supporter who loves his club. Has seen Brighton play in over 110 Stadiums. He has nothing but praise for the present owners, and has shared a journey from a time when one more defeat would have meant the end of the club to a place in Europe.
He was moaning at sections of his own support who leave early and no amount of relative success is good enough.
If anything it was a dig at the the modern person who wants instant gratification, and where nothing is good enough.

He spent time writing with Ricky Hatton.

Of course your opinions are relevant but yours would be a book much contrasted with his love affair.
 
hinchcliffes bulbous conk said:
Particularly as their only real chance was offside, Sky failed to show any substantive replays to evidence that and they used that chance to set the agenda as to how unlucky they were. Match of the Day later showed it to be offside, clearly. However it is still added to their XG (bollocks anyway). They also rattled on about how we hadn't troubled Henderson until Foden's free kick, again not mentioning Donnarumma hadn't made a save either. In fact it wasn't until much later in the second half he did.
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Then when Nketia stung Donnaruma's hands in the 85th minute, the commentator said it was the first save he'd made all match. That's how fucking unlucky Palace were. Sorry for the language but it bloody annoys me. They got through about 2/3 times first half and they were ALL offside.
 
asahartford1 said:
Ian Hart is nothing like that. He is a lifelong supporter who loves his club. Has seen Brighton play in over 110 Stadiums. He has nothing but praise for the present owners, and has shared a journey from a time when one more defeat would have meant the end of the club to a place in Europe.
He was moaning at sections of his own support who leave early and no amount of relative success is good enough.
If anything it was a dig at the the modern person who wants instant gratification, and where nothing is good enough.

He spent time writing with Ricky Hatton.

Of course your opinions are relevant but yours would be a book much contrasted with his love affair.
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I used to know Ian Hart quite well as our sons played football together in junior ranks and we were rival managers at the top of our local youth leagues. He's given a lot back into the game at junior and youth level and in my dealings with him was always a top class guy. He also has a soft spot for City. He got my son and I tickets to go with him to the Stoke FA Cup final in 2011. He was up cheering Yaya's winner as much as we were and we were going nuts!!!! I remember having fish and chips with him on the way home and wondering if it would be the start of something big.
We were in the FA regional seats and had an old couple sat in front of us who slept through the whole thing. Ian owned a funeral parlour and we wondered if he should pop a business card into their pockets!

Top class football guy and a really lovely genuine man.
 
Bell1970 said:
I used to know Ian Hart quite well as our sons played football together in junior ranks and we were rival managers at the top of our local youth leagues. He's given a lot back into the game at junior and youth level and in my dealings with him was always a top class guy. He also has a soft spot for City. He got my son and I tickets to go with him to the Stoke FA Cup final in 2011. He was up cheering Yaya's winner as much as we were and we were going nuts!!!! I remember having fish and chips with him on the way home and wondering if it would be the start of something big.
We were in the FA regional seats and had an old couple sat in front of us who slept through the whole thing. Ian owned a funeral parlour and we wondered if he should pop a business card into their pockets!

Top class football guy and a really lovely genuine man.
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What a lovely read.

And he sounded like my sort of guy when I listened to him today.

And the Funeral parlour was mentioned.
 
my god that was one of the most ridiculously commentated matches i've ever heard. Even if you are a neutral, it's just so unbearable to listen to a broadcast where the commentator cannot and will not hide their hatred for one of the teams. unbearable. I have no patience for that rat neville or carra but they are never even remotely as bad as andy hinchcliffe was tonight
 
asahartford1 said:
Ian Hart is nothing like that. He is a lifelong supporter who loves his club. Has seen Brighton play in over 110 Stadiums. He has nothing but praise for the present owners, and has shared a journey from a time when one more defeat would have meant the end of the club to a place in Europe.
He was moaning at sections of his own support who leave early and no amount of relative success is good enough.
If anything it was a dig at the the modern person who wants instant gratification, and where nothing is good enough.

He spent time writing with Ricky Hatton.

Of course your opinions are relevant but yours would be a book much contrasted with his love affair.
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I think you’ve misunderstood my post. I was merely reaffirming that, if you treat fans like customers, they’ll leave early, they’ll moan at the team, the manager and the players, even after years of unparalleled success.
I’m a bit surprised it’s already affecting Brighton as much as City but I suppose that just goes to prove my point really.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Treat fans like customers and, surprisingly enough, they behave like customers…
If nothing changes soon, it’ll become a bit like rugby, in that people will go and watch, but very few will actually care who wins.
Once that happens, they can have their non relegation, 4 quarters, bell in the ball, crossbars lighting up or some other as yet un-described horror, but they’ll never get back what they’ve lost.
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i watched toronto fc a few years back and when goal scored they had fireworks or them sparkler things going off behind goal
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Treat fans like customers and, surprisingly enough, they behave like customers…
If nothing changes soon, it’ll become a bit like rugby, in that people will go and watch, but very few will actually care who wins.
Once that happens, they can have their non relegation, 4 quarters, bell in the ball, crossbars lighting up or some other as yet un-described horror, but they’ll never get back what they’ve lost.
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I think the PL is 20 years away from me probably calling it day.

I think by 2040 everything you said above will come to fruition and what will occur is "franchise" football, where they will play a good proporption of games across the world for the "global" fanbase.

That way the clubs will feel supply and demand will sell out the home games because there is less of them and the games played abroad will sell themselves as they become one offs.
 
The onus on commentators to always talk up the opposition and how they can get back into the game is tiresome. Some fantastic one touch passing throughout the game hardly mentioned. Hinchcliffe talks as if he was a cross between Messi/Zidane in his prime rather than the player he was. Constant negativity and highlighting moments that can paint city in a bad light. Don’t see the same level of analysis when very strange off side call at Newcastle or dodgy pen at Monaco. Media revolves around engagement and have decided negative stories and reporting of city gets more- which is probably true. BBC is riddled with united fans and hence they get a fanzine level of reporting. Joke and if could wouldn’t pay for any of it.
 
samuelyeboah said:
my god that was one of the most ridiculously commentated matches i've ever heard. Even if you are a neutral, it's just so unbearable to listen to a broadcast where the commentator cannot and will not hide their hatred for one of the teams. unbearable. I have no patience for that rat neville or carra but they are never even remotely as bad as andy hinchcliffe was tonight
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Agree yesterday was embarrassing. I want really listening but I just kept hearing them going on and on about a possible red card.
Now that's think back to the fa Cup final, clearly handball by the palace keeper. Keeper wasn't sent off as the red said Haaland was going away from goal. Last night the Bournemouth player was going away from goal so defender not sent off.

Hinchcliffe was a disgrace as was his partner. Moan after moan yet if rags had at least 5 academy kids on that all we would hear about
 
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