Palestine Action

[abu13]

Did you know people were being held without bail for over a year on criminal damage charges and treated as terrorists? You do now.

Yes, and still dont understand how they think a hunger strike will make any difference.

 

[Blackley_Blue]

Yes, and still dont understand how they think a hunger strike will make any difference.

3 of them have now given up the hunger strike. It's achieved the square root of F-All.

There's a few GMC licences looking decidedly dodgy after this stunt too.

 

[abu13]

3 of them have now given up the hunger strike. It's achieved the square root of F-All.

There's a few GMC licences looking decidedly dodgy after this stunt too.

"There's a few GMC licences looking decidedly dodgy after this stunt too."

What are these?

 

[Blackley_Blue]

"There's a few GMC licences looking decidedly dodgy after this stunt too."

What are these?

General Medical Council Licences. The registered 'doctors' (activists) obstructing and hampering staff and police and demanding to be let in to prisons to assess these hunger strikers.

"I'm an A&E Doctor, let me in!!"

 

[The blue phantom]

Did you know people were being held without bail for over a year on criminal damage charges and treated as terrorists? You do now.

Seems we're going down the israel route locking them up with no charges. Goverment sanctioned rape of them will be next

 

[tweety]

One of them broke someone's back with a sledgehammer and you think they deserve bail, wow.

 

[We've got Guardiola]

Seems we're going down the israel route locking them up with no charges. Goverment sanctioned rape of them will be next

They have been charged? They're all awaiting trial for criminal damage, burglary and other stuff that can't be reported.

They're on remand not because of what they supposedly did but rather because there's a high likelihood that they'll do it again. It has nothing to do with the government, judges decide whether someone should be granted bail.

What kind of judge would find it credible that they would never do anything else until their trial date?

 

[hilts]

They have been charged? They're all awaiting trial for criminal damage, burglary and other stuff that can't be reported.

They're on remand not because of what they supposedly did but rather because there's a high likelihood that they'll do it again. It has nothing to do with the government, judges decide whether someone should be granted bail.

What kind of judge would find it credible that they would never do anything else until their trial date?

The kind of judge that let's people out on bail every single day without knowing if they will do anything else.

 

[bluethrunthru]

I think arresting Grannies, clergymen and Greta Thunberg for the heinous crime of holding up a home made placard will backfire on the Govt in the same way frivolous actions against people are not being supported by the courts

Bob Vylan: No charges over IDF chants during Glastonbury set

Avon and Somerset Police says the incident "does not meet the criminal threshold" for prosecution.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Blackley_Blue]

I think arresting Grannies, clergymen and Greta Thunberg for the heinous crime of holding up a home made placard will backfire on the Govt in the same way frivolous actions against people are not being supported by the courts

Bob Vylan: No charges over IDF chants during Glastonbury set

Avon and Somerset Police says the incident "does not meet the criminal threshold" for prosecution.

www.bbc.co.uk

Greta obviously not getting enough attention protesting about climate... Now if she would have held that sign up in her own country, she wouldn't have gotten into bother.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

I think arresting Grannies, clergymen and Greta Thunberg for the heinous crime of holding up a home made placard will backfire on the Govt in the same way frivolous actions against people are not being supported by the courts

Bob Vylan: No charges over IDF chants during Glastonbury set

Avon and Somerset Police says the incident "does not meet the criminal threshold" for prosecution.

www.bbc.co.uk

Declaring PA proscribed and the governments attitude to Gaza, combined with IHT it will backfire in the same way Covid 19 did for Johnson.

 

[hilts]

Greta obviously not getting enough attention protesting about climate... Now if she would have held that sign up in her own country, she wouldn't have gotten into bother.

Yeah imagine being bothered about more than one thing in your life.

 

[Vic]

They have been charged? They're all awaiting trial for criminal damage, burglary and other stuff that can't be reported.

They're on remand not because of what they supposedly did but rather because there's a high likelihood that they'll do it again. It has nothing to do with the government, judges decide whether someone should be granted bail.

What kind of judge would find it credible that they would never do anything else until their trial date?

Are you guessing? There is a right to bail, so what are the juducial reasons for not granting it? (Only one is charged with causing bodily harm.)

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

From the BBC
Since the hunger strike began on 2 November, a total of seven prisoners have been taken to hospital.

Kamran Ahmed, 28, who was being held at Pentonville Prison in north London, was admitted to hospital in the past week, as was Amu Gib, 30, who was being held at HMP Bronzefield in Surrey.

The latter's health had "deteriorated rapidly" since joining the hunger strike on 2 November, and the activist now needed to use a wheelchair, Prisoners for Palestine previously said.

A legal firm representing the hunger strikers has said it submitted a pre-action letter on Monday against the Justice Secretary David Lammy.

The letter outlines the group's intention to initiate legal action.

People get away with covering surfaces with Graffiti for decades, no one should get prosecuted there isn’t a wall anywhere in the UK that hasn’t been scribbled over, one of the hunger strikers is seriously ill if he dies how will Starmer excuse the death of a prisoner detained without bail.

 

[We've got Guardiola]

Are you guessing? There is a right to bail, so what are the juducial reasons for not granting it? (Only one is charged with causing bodily harm.)

It's quite easy to find. The section on likelihood of reoffending is important.

Bail Act 1976

An Act to make provision in relation to bail in or in connection with criminal proceedings in England and Wales, to make it an offence to agree to indemnify sureties in criminal proceedings, to make provision for legal aid limited to questions of bail in certain cases and for legal aid for...

www.legislation.gov.uk

You also don't need to be charged, you can be arrested under investigation and then get put on remand with bail refused via whatever justification the court sees fit. The bar for this is very high.

To argue otherwise would set a precedent where for example murderers are automatically released on bail until evidence is sufficient to charge, or they could just go on hunger strike and demand bail?

Remand also isn't prison in the prison sense, you get a lot more freedoms than a regular convicted prisoner.

 

[The blue phantom]

Greta obviously not getting enough attention protesting about climate... Now if she would have held that sign up in her own country, she wouldn't have gotten into bother.

Must admit I still love how Greta boils some folks piss. She's one brave young lady who gives not one fuck about any repercussions.

 

[stonerblue]

Must admit I still love how Greta boils some folks piss. She's one brave young lady who gives not one fuck about any repercussions.

 

[tweety]

Are you guessing? There is a right to bail, so what are the juducial reasons for not granting it? (Only one is charged with causing bodily harm.)

I'm unaware of the individual charges regarding this incident but you can certainly be convicted of murder even though your accomplice was the one that pulled the trigger.

 

[Vic]

It's quite easy to find. The section on likelihood of reoffending is important.

Bail Act 1976

An Act to make provision in relation to bail in or in connection with criminal proceedings in England and Wales, to make it an offence to agree to indemnify sureties in criminal proceedings, to make provision for legal aid limited to questions of bail in certain cases and for legal aid for...

www.legislation.gov.uk

You also don't need to be charged, you can be arrested under investigation and then get put on remand with bail refused via whatever justification the court sees fit. The bar for this is very high.

To argue otherwise would set a precedent where for example murderers are automatically released on bail until evidence is sufficient to charge, or they could just go on hunger strike and demand bail?

Remand also isn't prison in the prison sense, you get a lot more freedoms than a regular convicted prisoner.

Good grief. You call that "easy to find"? And I'm well used to trawling legislation.

Murder is already an exception to the right to bail. (Section 6ZA).

But you've missed the point - they are the provisions why bail need not be granted. What exactly are the provisions that the judge cited for not granting bail?

And these prisoners have obviously got more restrictions than "a regular convicted prisoner", partly because of the trumped-up "terrorism" aspect.

 

[Vic]

Quite prophetic that.

Is it just possible that a certain Yaxley-Lennon modelled his Robinson persona on that Harry Enfield character? There are certainly visual and vocal similarities!