I don't know how anyone has enough info about him to have a strong enough opinion either way!This player is clearly dividing the thread. Which is always interesting in itself.
Why can we never seem to development that talent though? It’s always that they need to go somewhere else to developThink he needs a permanent move
His ceiling is still so high but not at us, he needs to be playing consistently
Permanent move with a buy back clause suits us
Had he never returned from injury he'd have been Balon Dor material at this stage.That injury totally killed him. It not only killed his momentum, but due to a few good games in pre season games it built up massive expectations while he was out. Never known a player's reputation grow as much as his while he was out. Feel like the pressure and big expectations plus his poor form have totally affected the lad.
We are leaders in developing our talentWhy can we never seem to development that talent though? It’s always that they need to go somewhere else to develop
Yet we can spend huge amounts of money on players like savinho or Khusanov and develop other teams players.
We develop players, but the vast majority don’t end up playing in our first team and end up going on loan or leaving. Based on reports Bobb and Lewis will be leaving as well.We are leaders in developing our talent
Foden and NOR are in our best XI, Lewis has loads of appearances, Bobb has a handful and would have more if it wasnt for his injury
Palmer was ready but competition was too fierce
Show me another top club, who compete on all levels like we do, with so many academy players at the top level? Lewis-Skelly and Nwaneri are top talents yet Arsenal are chasing trophies and both have found gametime limited.
The Dippers had Trent Arnold, Curtis Jones is a squad player who probably would've become a better player had he moved. Harvey Elliot, Sterling and now the Rio lad were all brought from other academies
And thats not including Trafford, Delap, Rogers, Sancho, Lavia etc. Who all havd great development at us
Foden, Lewis, OReilly, multiple tranformations like Nunes etc.Why can we never seem to development that talent though? It’s always that they need to go somewhere else to develop
Yet we can spend huge amounts of money on players like savinho or Khusanov and develop other teams players.
Sorry what haha is that a chat GPT answer ;)Foden, Lewis, OReilly, multiple tranformations like Nunes etc.
Progress is not linear. Its tough to bet on the right horse all the time. It depends on particular case. We had to choose with playing time between Phil and Palmer for instance. We should have left KDB or Grealish on the bench to make a room for Rogers when hes been breaking into first team football etc.?
Sorry, but these theses of Yours are weak and lack prior analysis of individual cases. If you had carried out an analysis, you would know that introducing academy players into a first team that competes for all trophies every year is extremely complex.
Haha no why?:) you just put the generalisations without any factual reference. Its because Your thesis is actually contrfactual.Sorry what haha is that a chat GPT answer ;)
Let me just carry out my analysis!
I don't know how anyone has enough info about him to have a strong enough opinion either way!
We develop players, but the vast majority don’t end up playing in our first team and end up going on loan or leaving. Based on reports Bobb and Lewis will be leaving as well.
Foden is the one only one who has properly made it at city and is a guaranteed first team player. O’reily has only started playing regularly this season, so we will see how that goes.
I haven’t said every young player we have, should end up playing regularly for us - that’s pretty obvious. However I do think some of the young players we’ve had/ do have are more than good enough to play regularly.
I'm with you 100% on that. Given the form he was in, I considered him to be as much of a loss to us as Rodri was last season. I think he was ready to hit the ground running, just hasn't quite got back to that yet.Shown enough, before the injury, to suggest he has a future here and I would much rather see Savinho exit or Bobb go on loan and review the situation again in the summer.
Im convinced Bobb just needs regular run of first team football to blossom.
Yes, very true. I think it's a lot more difficult at a club like City too because if we want to stay at the top and keep challenging then we can't risk using younger, inexperienced players in the way that, say, a mid- table club could. They could lose a couple of matches but it wouldn't matter too much, they're not going to finish top 6 and they're not going to go down but we don't have that luxury.Lack of opportunity and lack of patience.
Why hang about on 'basic' wages at EDS level, waiting for a turn that may never come, when regular high level football and a guaranteed contract elsewhere with significantly increased wages is on the table.
Only a very poorly advised optimist would turn down a move in today's game. (James McAtee) Any well advised player will jump at the chance (Kalvin Phillips)
There's no loyalty in football whether to club by players or vice versa. Loyalty only exists for supporters..
It’s just a job. Good luck to Oscar Bobb and those in the same position