Antoine Semenyo | Prefers to join City - Ornstein (p73)

What do we now need at City ? We’ve regressed due to various reasons and need to have leading players who make a difference now
Otherwise how long before the likes of Haaland Foden and Gvardiol want to leave
We've regressed since the quadruple team but definitely progressed in the last 18 months.
A lot of the old guard have gone and replaced by younger players at different levels of ability.
This time last year we were practically out of the PL league race and struggling badly in the CL, eventually just scraping through.
We have arguably a better LB and RB, GK and the likes of Nico G and Doku have certainly stepped up.
One downside has been the unavailability of Rodri but he would have been a big miss from the team of 2 years ago too.
 
We've regressed since the quadruple team but definitely progressed in the last 18 months.
A lot of the old guard have gone and replaced by younger players at different levels of ability.
This time last year we were practically out of the PL league race and struggling badly in the CL, eventually just scraping through.
We have arguably a better LB and RB, GK and the likes of Nico G and Doku have certainly stepped up.
One downside has been the unavailability of Rodri but he would have been a big miss from the team of 2 years ago too.
Exactly fully agree
 
Where do I say you always need a superstar ?
In fact I would suggest that Seymenyo isn’t a superstar ( he’s not Rodrygo or Vinny) he is an improvement and one I feel we need
The difference is in this league players don’t seem to want to wait for their time
Bobb and Savinho have had a taste of first team football so obviously want minutes which we can’t guarantee if Semenyo comes in
How many game has Savinho played but I dont see him moaning about game time. Maybe he wanted to go to Spurs, but I thought that came more from his agent than Savinho wanting out. Bobb had a major injury that has set him back & he looked to be in Peps thoughts as a starter.

If anything its more to do with Pep not being able to rotate his 1st 11 and being able to rely on the squad players that is limiting their game time, as you only have to look how O'Reily & Nunes have become guarenteed starters
 
Marmoush hasn't played because Haaland is incredible and this season Doku has emerged as a top player. The space for Marmoush has disappeared. I've felt all season that we need to work out how to get more out of Marmoush but if Semenyo signs it will look even more difficult for him.

I find some of the comments about Savinho and Bobb disappointing. Semenyo is a better right sided player in this moment but he's 25 years old. These players are at different stages in their development. What would Semenyo have looked like at 21?
4 years younger than he looks now?
 
We've regressed since the quadruple team but definitely progressed in the last 18 months.
A lot of the old guard have gone and replaced by younger players at different levels of ability.
This time last year we were practically out of the PL league race and struggling badly in the CL, eventually just scraping through.
We have arguably a better LB and RB, GK and the likes of Nico G and Doku have certainly stepped up.
One downside has been the unavailability of Rodri but he would have been a big miss from the team of 2 years ago too.
In the last 10 years we've been able to replace superstars & with a tweak to the system at times we've managed to absorb the transition but it hasnt happened overnight. When you think how long it took to replace Vinny, the 2 seasons of a false 9 post Aguero & how many saw Rodri becoming Balon D'or winner after his 1st season here.

Winning 4 in a row, something that had never been done in the premier league, probably set the rebuild back 12 months & who knows what would have happened had Rodri not missed 3/4 of the season
 
So seriously you don’t class Viniscus junior as a superstar ?
Only on terms of how the media relate to him....on the pitch he is a coward and poor player with a terrible attitude...the epitome of a flat track bully.....perfect for the rags

I woudnt even have him on a free and would rather keep ANY of our wide options than have him. He woukd bottle it in the premiership.
 
What do we now need at City ? We’ve regressed due to various reasons and need to have leading players who make a difference now
Otherwise how long before the likes of Haaland Foden and Gvardiol want to leave
Haaland has signed a 10 year deal, Foden is a local lad who looks to be signing a new deal & Gvardiol is looking at signing a new deal so I canr see any of them wanting to leave.

The regression was to be expected after 4 mentally exhausting years for the player & lets not forget that due to inept VAR & missing a penalty, we'd probably have won the FA Cup & last season wouldn't have been seen in the light thar many are making out
 
I see it as Foden, Cherki, Doku, Savinho, Reijnders and Semenyo fighting for 3 places. Semenyo providing cover for Haaland and even Foden as a false 9. Reinjders is only effective as a 10. No room for Marmoush or Bobb.
But they wont be playing every game as we play 2 games a week for practically the rest of the season & thats before factoring in injuries
 
So seriously you don’t class Viniscus junior as a superstar ?
Apologies for butting in on the conversation, Personally I wouldn't put Vinicious Junior down as a "superstar" far from it.

He had a good couple of seasons around the time of the Ballon d'or, He's gone off off the boil massively ever since he spat his dummy out.

He's a very good player although nowhere near "superstar" status imo.
 
Only on terms of how the media relate to him....on the pitch he is a coward and poor player with a terrible attitude...the epitome of a flat track bully.....perfect for the rags

I woudnt even have him on a free and would rather keep ANY of our wide options than have him. He woukd bottle it in the premiership.
Spot on. As far as the media coverage of him is concerned, he is 100% a superstar. Stevie Wonder can see that. But as a bloke, I don't rate him at all. He (and his club) showed their true colours when Rodri won the Ballon D'Or. As for his antics on the pitch....



And there's plenty more clips like that on YT.
 
But they wont be playing every game as we play 2 games a week for practically the rest of the season & thats before factoring in injuries
Haaland will start every premier league and champions league game that isn't a dead rubber. Marmoush won't get a look in unless Haaland gets injured. 6 players for 3 spots even if Marmoush and Bobb leave.
 
Haaland will start every premier league and champions league game that isn't a dead rubber. Marmoush won't get a look in unless Haaland gets injured. 6 players for 3 spots even if Marmoush and Bobb leave.
Even if doesnt get injured which he has in his previous 3 seasons & dont forget Doku has been out for 3 weeks, that still leaves 8 players for 4 spots. If we presume Gonzales & Kovacic will play as holding midfielder. Reijnders & Bernardo can play in the centre 3
 
Spot on. As far as the media coverage of him is concerned, he is 100% a superstar. Stevie Wonder can see that. But as a bloke, I don't rate him at all. He (and his club) showed their true colours when Rodri won the Ballon D'Or. As for his antics on the pitch....



And there's plenty more clips like that on YT.

Complete and utter cnut
 

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