A disgraceful undermining of the Ticket Points system - again

[mcfcphil]

Playing devil's advocate here, but one possible explanation for this is the number of semi final tickets that were left unsold. Maybe as a result of that, the club just wanted to shift the tickets to whoever will buy them.

That would be a ridiculous position to take give the reasons many people didn’t go to semi is because they foresaw the situation of having to pay 80-125 quid for a final ticket and couldn’t afford both.

 

[Marvin.]

I am OK with supporter clubs getting a piece of the pie but they should have a system in place to allocate them fairly. The scramble for tickets is getting more difficult because of the high pricing and ticket categories.

 

[fathellensbellend]

I am OK with supporter clubs getting a piece of the pie but they should have a system in place to allocate them fairly. The scramble for tickets is getting more difficult because of the high pricing and ticket categories.

supporters clubs should operate under the same parameters as every other supporter, and apply at the same times for a cup final, being a member shouldn't be a shortcut to the cheap tickets, fair enough the 20% for league games as prices are all the same, but for members who don't do games to blag the cheapest/best tickets is a monumental piss take

 

[PistonBlue]

That would be a ridiculous position to take give the reasons many people didn’t go to semi is because they foresaw the situation of having to pay 80-125 quid for a final ticket and couldn’t afford both.

I'm not saying I agree with it, but ultimately the club need to shift the tickets.
I absolutely get the the financial reasons for some fans sacking the semi by the way, but maybe the club just got spooked.

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

The problem is the club not the OSC or 1894 group

Stated many years ago that the ticket system was unfair.

I pay for 4 ST so wife and kids can go as well as me and can only afford Gold not platinum

My brother buys one ticket and gets platinum so gets double points but has not followed City as long as me and more points

I queued for 14 hours for Gillingham ticket just two weeks after my first born was born as I was desperate to go

Now I wait until the FA send City spare tickets which work out cheaper than when I could qualify for a ticket, sometimes works out some I miss out

My feelings now are if you are on the cup scheme you should get first offer of tickets and depending points you have and this should include OSC members

I don’t and won’t sign up to cup schemes and won’t pay platinum as it is just a way of buying loyalty but I won’t have a go at fellow blues as it’s not them who the problem is with

 

[PistonBlue]

supporters clubs should operate under the same parameters as every other supporter, and apply at the same times for a cup final, being a member shouldn't be a shortcut to the cheap tickets, fair enough the 20% for league games as prices are all the same, but for members who don't do games to blag the cheapest/best tickets is a monumental piss take

I'm in a SC, joined when I moved out of Manchester to meet up with Blues around here. I'm not aware of cheap tickets?

 

[fathellensbellend]

I'm in a SC, joined when I moved out of Manchester to meet up with Blues around here. I'm not aware of cheap tickets?

wembley has numerous bands of tickets, "fans" not on the cup scheme, not members, don't do home games have accessed the cheap wembley tickets in the 1st window, while season ticket holders on the scheme, or not on the scheme are further down the line and will end up paying potentially hundreds of pounds more.

 

[PistonBlue]

wembley has numerous bands of tickets, "fans" not on the cup scheme, not members, don't do home games have accessed the cheap wembley tickets in the 1st window, while season ticket holders on the scheme, or not on the scheme are further down the line and will end up paying potentially hundreds of pounds more.

So not cheap as in reduced price. Just cheap as in the lowest price band. Ok with you now

 

[Etihad]

Me and my 2 kids are Citizens members in the cup scheme. We've been to every round, including Newcastle and Southampton. Looks like we will have to pay £355 on Tuesday if we want to buy 3 tickets together so probably won't bother.

 

[mcfcphil]

I'm not saying I agree with it, but ultimately the club need to shift the tickets.
I absolutely get the the financial reasons for some fans sacking the semi by the way, but maybe the club just got spooked.

Yeah, didn’t mean to suggest it was your view mate.

 

[Edghill OG]

It does take the piss when folk don’t attend a game all season and rock up for the final.

And snap up the majority of the cheaper seats before the cup schemers have even had their opportunity.

The OSCs used to get blocks together previously. Which made sense so the people with high points still went through the supporters club so they could be sat together with other members. They had to suck up whatever category they got and accept that was part of the arrangement.

The way it's been done now can only be looked upon as a queue jump as they're all spread out over the stadium with an opportunity to purchase wherever they want before others. It's wrong. The window shouldn't have been this early on or at the very least the cheaper categories should have been greyed out and been unavailable to purchase.

 

[jrb]

There is a clear and obvious conflict of interests for Sir Kevin Parker.

He can't represent the OSC members, whilst at the same time representing the wider City fans base as an (unelected) City Matters Rep.

This issue is a prime example where he has put the OSC membership in-front of the wider City fan base he is supposed to represent as a City Matters Rep.

The club is also complicit in this as they have turned a blind eye to Kevin Parker getting the OSC-City Matters Rep position without the wider City fans base voting for him, whilst the other City Matters Reps have been voted for by the wider City fan base. It's bordering on nepotism and jobs for the boys.

I have asked for this before as an OSC member. It's obviously fallen on deaf ears with Kevin Parker and with the club. Kevin Parker should do the right thing and step down as the OSC-City Matters Rep at the end of the season, and a genuine and fair vote for a new OSC-City Matters Rep should be held by the club via the wider City fans base before the start of next season. (don't hold your breath)

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

There is a clear and obvious conflict of interests for Sir Kevin Parker.

He can't represent the OSC members, whilst at the same time representing the wider City fans base as an (unelected) City Matters Rep.

This issue is a prime example where he has put the OSC membership in-front of the wider City fan base he is supposed to represent as a City Matters Rep.

The club is also complicit in this as they have turned a blind eye to Kevin Parker getting the OSC-City Matters Rep position without the wider City fans base voting for him, whilst the other City Matters Reps have been voted for by the wider City fan base. It's bordering on nepotism and jobs for the boys.

I have asked for this before as an OSC member. It's obviously fallen on deaf ears with Kevin Parker and with the club. Kevin Parker should do the right thing and step down as the OSC-City Matters Rep at the end of the season, and a genuine and fair vote for a new OSC-City Matters Rep should be held by the club before the start of next season.

Kevin represents the OSC on City Matters and there's no sensible system that doesn't include that representation. The reps agreed amongst themselves. and asked City for the OSC rep to be co-opted, rather than elected, in the same way the 1894 rep is.

 

[bluemc]

There is a clear and obvious conflict of interests for Sir Kevin Parker.

He can't represent the OSC members, whilst at the same time representing the wider City fans base as an (unelected) City Matters Rep.

This issue is a prime example where he has put the OSC membership in-front of the wider City fan base he is supposed to represent as a City Matters Rep.

The club is also complicit in this as they have turned a blind eye to Kevin Parker getting the OSC-City Matters Rep position without the wider City fans base voting for him, whilst the other City Matters Reps have been voted for by the wider City fan base. It's bordering on nepotism and jobs for the boys.

I have asked for this before as an OSC member. It's obviously fallen on deaf ears with Kevin Parker and with the club. Kevin Parker should do the right thing and step down as the OSC-City Matters Rep at the end of the season, and a genuine and fair vote for a new OSC-City Matters Rep should be held by the club via the wider City fans base before the start of next season. (don't hold your breath)

Whilst I don't disagree with your sentiment, when you are in a good position with perks and can also control the benefits (tickets) a lot of your mates can get, why would you step aside? There would also be a lot of people, queue jumpers if you will, who would be more than happy for Parker to stay in situ given they continue to benefit from his running of the OSC.

The farcical access to this year's cup final tickets has obviously created some more noise around what's going on, but it needs someone away from Parker to drive change and perhaps fundamentally how the OSC operates.

 

[Alex - The Citizens Trust]

Morning all. Just wanted to flag that we have picked up the concern about this. As an Interim Board, we have sent a letter to the Club this morning seeking clarification and transparency about the situation.

 

[Lewisszn]

Me and my 2 kids are Citizens members in the cup scheme. We've been to every round, including Newcastle and Southampton. Looks like we will have to pay £355 on Tuesday if we want to buy 3 tickets together so probably won't bother.

Same here. I mentioned previously that the club should adopt the system they did for the carabao final- matchday members who attended previous rounds get priority window

 

[VOOMER]

The loyal supporters who go home and AWAY, should get first priority.
This excludes me as I don't travel.

 

[uwe rosler 28]

Wanted 3 together but had 2 get 2 today and 1 on Tuesday now with all these cheap tickets getting snapped up.

 

[M18CTID]

Yes but the tickets are still ring fenced off for the 1894 group, so say someone who wasn’t aware of the 1894 section with 16k points who wanted a category 3 ticket for £80 went on to buy at 1pm yesterday but all the tickets in that section were sold out. Yet say someone who signed up to the 1894 section with 8k points and are able to purchase theirs on Tuesday at 10am, if there’s tickets left in that section they’ve essentially reaped a benefit of being part of 1894 than someone with far less points. I think that’s what @cityutopia is saying

Actually he was initially saying that anyone signed up to the singing section would get a ticket, regardless of points, SC, and cup scheme status and he also implied that anyone signed up to it could log on at 10am yesterday and buy a ticket.

You’ve got a point to be fair as a minority of fans in that section will get an £80 ticket ahead of someone who is on higher points not signed up to it but no system is perfect and as has been stated the seats aren’t ringfenced indefinitely and they’re not the cheapest in our end anyway. The 1894 singing section has to go somewhere and since we started doing displays at Wembley it invariably has to be at the front of Level 1. If it was further back or in Level 5 then how on earth would we have been able to pull off the Dennis Tueart display in the Carabao Cup Final? Maybe some people want us to put the singing section in Level 2 where the £285 tickets are!

I’ll also add that on at least one other occasion before we used to do displays we did do a singing section further back that encompassed a mixture of cheaper and more expensive Level 1 seats. I’m pretty sure it was the Watford final in 2019 as I recall paying £115 for my ticket and thinking at the time that it was the most I’d ever paid for a ticket.

So no, it’s not a case of just bagging the cheapest seats because if it was we’d be in the £50 seats in Level 5.

On a side note, while I get people are frustrated I bet not a single one of them would turn down the chance of jumping the queue if they had a mate on higher points who wasn’t going to the game and offered them their ticket.

 

[CΛL]

Actually he was initially saying that anyone signed up to the singing section would get a ticket, regardless of points, SC, and cup scheme status and he also implied that anyone signed up to it could log on at 10am yesterday and buy a ticket.

You’ve got a point to be fair as a minority of fans in that section will get an £80 ticket ahead of someone who is on higher points not signed up to it but no system is perfect and as has been stated the seats aren’t ringfenced indefinitely and they’re not the cheapest in our end anyway. The 1894 singing section has to go somewhere and since we started doing displays at Wembley it invariably has to be at the front of Level 1. If it was further back or in Level 5 then how on earth would we have been able to pull off the Dennis Tueart display in the Carabao Cup Final? Maybe some people want us to put the singing section in Level 2 where the £285 tickets are!

I’ll also add that on at least one other occasion before we used to do displays we did do a singing section further back that encompassed a mixture of cheaper and more expensive Level 1 seats. I’m pretty sure it was the Watford final in 2019 as I recall paying £115 for my ticket and thinking at the time that it was the most I’d ever paid for a ticket.

So no, it’s not a case of just bagging the cheapest seats because if it was we’d be in the £50 seats in Level 5.

On a side note, while I get people are frustrated I bet not a single one of them would turn down the chance of jumping the queue if they had a mate on higher points who wasn’t going to the game and offered them their ticket.

Having a tifo or a big flag isn’t a good enough reason to fuck over loyal fans going through the proper channels to get access to tickets.

Like you say nobody is blaming the individuals benefiting from it as we’d all do the same but it all needs changing so it can’t happen again.