If you knowingly had a dodgy £20 note

Not quite a £20 note, but it's a similar principle ....... i was in a pub about 24 years ago where i knew most people quite well, and, half sozzled, i went to the bar with a fiver to get a drink .... i honestly had no idea, as i don't ever really check my notes for their validity beforehand, but it turned out to be a dud according to the barstaff in there, who i knew ..... i just had to apologise and give them the only other note i had on me, which was a tenner, but it was f'kin embarrassing to say the least ..... that was the ONLY time that this has ever happened to me, so as I'd never want to be in that position again, I'd have to answer no to this threads opening question.
 
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SWP's back said:
Yes. Presumably I’ve ended up with it without it being my fault or by me purchasing it. I’d much rather the end user that got fucked by £20 was some multi national that paid zero tax than than me (noting I don’t actually pay tax anyway, in the UK)
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Some old dear in front of me at Asda the other week paid her bill and the cashier took 3 dodgy twenty off her. I told her to give her them back and she wouldn't. Then two security turned up to collect the dodgy notes.
 
stonerblue said:
Some old dear in front of me at Asda the other week paid her bill and the cashier took 3 dodgy twenty off her. I told her to give her them back and she wouldn't. Then two security turned up to collect the dodgy notes.
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The cashier had no choice sadly. If she took them her till would have been £60 down when she paid it in to be checked and she would have been in the shit. It's illegal to knowingly hand forged notes back to the person trying to pass them over too. Not only would she have been sacked for doing so she would have left herself open to.prosecution.
 
paulchapo said:
The cashier had no choice sadly. If she took them her till would have been £60 down when she paid it in to be checked and she would have been in the shit. It's illegal to knowingly hand forged notes back to the person trying to pass them over too. Not only would she have been sacked for doing so she would have left herself open to.prosecution.
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Over the last couple of months i've been handed a few fake 20s at work. All, bar one, were unaware theirmoney was bent. I give them the note back and tell them its dodgy.
I also got cash out of the bank machine and gave a mate a twenty. He came back 5 mins later and said the shop said its fake so i went and got the shop to double check it. It was fake and they gave it me back. Nobody got arrested.
 
stonerblue said:
Over the last couple of months i've been handed a few fake 20s at work. All, bar one, were unaware theirmoney was bent. I give them the note back and tell them its dodgy.
I also got cash out of the bank machine and gave a mate a twenty. He came back 5 mins later and said the shop said its fake so i went and got the shop to double check it. It was fake and they gave it me back. Nobody got arrested.
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It's still a criminal offence and both yourself and the shop broke the law. Like all crimes unless the police are called and involved then nobody gets arrested or prosecuted. It's a bummer if you find you've somehow been lumbered with one and i guess almost everybody would try and spend it. Some are successful, some get spotted and I'd say these days 99% of retailers would not hand it back. The reason for that, particularly in larger stores,.is the person will just try and pass it over to another till operator. Also forgers will usually strike while the iron is hot and flood shops until eventually the forgeries are discovered and everybody is on high alert. Shops could lose a significant amount of money because when they bank their money the bank will seize them and they won't be reimbursed. Some forgeries are very good but the one thing they can't replicate is the feel of the note. The paper to.print them is delivered to banks under armed guard because if criminals acquired it they'd make a fortune. It's the only thing stopping them now technology is so good. You can ask for a receipt for the note if it's retained but many don't bother. You can make a fuss but the police will then be called and you'd end up being questioned as to how you acquired it and nobody needs that hassle.

Here's the law regarding forged notes. The heavier penalties are obviously for professional forgers. A lad i grew up with in Wythenshawe actively got involved with forging, they were doing other stuff as well as cash and he served five years once they were caught. That was in the late seventies. Anyway here's the law.

Getting caught with fake notes in the UK is a serious criminal offence under the Forgery and Counterfeiting Act 1981, potentially leading to up to 10 years in prison. Possessing, passing, or making counterfeit currency is illegal, and knowingly using them—even a single note—is treated severely, often resulting in custodial sentences.
 
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