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Khaldoon's end of season interview | Pt 1 (p3) | Pt 2 (p12)
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SuperbI think, especially after watching part 2, that what virtually all journalists and rival fans (and even a few on here) don’t quite ‘get’ is that City aren’t run like any other football club in world football.
Football, naturally enough given the emotion it engenders in everyone, has always been run on the basis of “what will win us our next game/ what will get us through to the end of the season”. Our owners have never taken that view. From day one it has always been a seriously long term view, decades into the future.
Football, particularly English football, just did not recognise that level of forward thinking. This country had fallen into the trap, for many years, of believing that football was always going to be a fait accompli. One of United, Liverpool, Arsenal, and at a pinch Chelsea, were always going to win the biggest prizes. For sure there may occasionally be a bone thrown to the masses with a FA cup/league cup shock - it keeps them coming back - but ultimately the game was sewn up for the Sky four.
And as an industry, this was not just accepted, but celebrated. There just wasn’t the ability to imagine an outsider with the wherewithal to hijack this cosy little club. And when City came along not only was this NOT celebrated, it was dismissed. And then targeted. And they’ve been trying to destroy us ever since. Everyone involved in any capacity with the game in this country, fans, owners, media, journalists, everyone, simply did not and still does not, have the mental capacity to understand that City weren’t just trying to win a league or two, they are purposely disrupting the game.
This lack of understanding lead directly to the charges. From the PL, they are simply a case of “kill them. Literally kill this football club. We cannot allow the also rans to be given ideas above the station we have given them.”
From everyone else, lead by the hateful English media, it isnt jealousy, or embedded fans of United/other clubs, it is simple ignorance of what HHSM is building. They just don’t understand the concept of building a football club from the ground up with a view that stretches 30 or 40 years into the distance. Because that’s never been done in the modern game.
Clubs and fans have been conditioned to accept that if they’re not one of the “big four” ( remember that term?) then their role is to be grateful for the odd point at old Trafford/anfield, and back home on the coach you go. See you next year.
And like sufferers of Stockholm syndrome they have embraced it. So much so that instead of looking at City and thinking “we could do with owners like that” they look at City and think “we need to get rid of these, they’re ruining the game”. The game that gave them fuck all and patted them on the head every season as one of the originals hoovered up most of the trophies and almost all the money.
We won’t change their minds in my lifetime, it will take decades.
So instead we’ll get to watch them torture themselves in Plymouth, derby, Middlesbrough, Ipswich et al as we continue to grow. And fuck them. I despise the also rans more than I do “the big four”. Because I despise rank stupidity.
Oh, and anyone watching part two who still has ANY doubt that we have/are going to shortly, win the charges case, watch it again. Does anybody seriously think this man and the men he represents has had any need or desire to act in a grubby manner? It’s more simple than that. He’s been operating far beyond their level of knowledge for years now and because they cannot fathom how a club like city could grow so far and so fast they have fallen back on the old comfort blanket “they must have cheated”. Because the truth is even more terrifying for them. “They’re cleverer than we thought and they decided they weren’t going to settle for the odd crumb”
Fuck them all. I can’t wait for the announcement day.
Some ‘official from AbuDhabi’ is going to eviscerate Masters and the rest.
vicblueman
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He's the best chairman going .
Any doubts soon go after listening to his interviews .
He is so positive .
Any doubts soon go after listening to his interviews .
He is so positive .
if it involves Will Smith flying a downed spacecraft to destroy the mothership I'm all in!!Fuck them all. I can’t wait for the announcement day.
Kippax Street 1880
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Yes. Without Pep the football team takes a hit. Without Khaldoon, the entire structure of the club falls apart.
Surely the Sheikh would just put another equally competent and experienced guy in from another area of his business interests. I wouldn't be running around screaming if he had to take a step back for health reasons or whatever anyway. Not that I think he's doing a bad job by any means.
Kinkys Left Foot
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Some Official?I hope that's still the general opinion in 12 months. Personally I think that is one of the craziest things I've ever read, some official from Abu Dhabi is harder to replace than the best manager of all time?
Is that your honest opinion of our Chairman, this Khaldoun AL Mubarak?
Khaldoon Khalifa Al Mubarak is an Emirati government official and business leader. Al Mubarak holds senior positions within the Government of Abu Dhabi, including as a member of the Executive Council since 2006, a member of the Supreme Council for Financial and Economic Affairs, and as the founding chairman of the Executive Affairs Authority. He fulfills responsibilities for the UAE Federal government and has served as Presidential Special Envoy to the People's Republic of China since 2018.
Al Mubarak is chief executive officer and managing director of Mubadala Investment Company. He is chairman of the football clubs Manchester City, Melbourne City and founding chairman of City Football Group. Al Mubarak is on the board of the UAE business ADNOC and serves as the Chairman of the Boards of the Emirates Nuclear Energy Corporation, Abu Dhabi Commercial Bank and Emirates Global Aluminium.
Some official - i think not.
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A lot of the time, building a good team is just down the pure chance.Khaldoon is obviously an extremely competent and well spoken man, we are lucky to have him!
But regarding transfers in particular, I judge what we do rather than judge what he says. Ahead of every summer its talk about how we are going to improve the squad but in the last couple of years we have gone from having the perhaps best squad in world football, a squad that won the treble, to having a squad that finishes 20-25pts behind our previous levels. The opposite of what has been said in these interviews.
It's time we bring in some elite level players again that raise our level! We need players ready to win us the league, not players who might or might not develop into top players 2-3 years from now.
Clubs can plan all they want, they can sit down with as many videos and analysts and spreadsheets and experts on the game as they want, target all the right players that they think tick off their requirements as they want, spend all they want, hope all they want. However, most of it is just down to nothing more than pure chance that the right players are available and are bought or come through an Academy at the right time to gel together, understanding and executing the manager’s tactics, to become a good team.
Hundreds of teams across football over the decades have done exactly the right things in the hope to build a great team with a manager with good tactics… they followed the recipe to the word, but the ingredients just didn’t quite make a nice cake.
Of course buying better players helps enormously. It’s very rare that non-elite players make an elite team… but it is also very common that a group of elite players do not make a great team.
I think we have certainly let our standards slide when it comes to signings, since around 2021. I think our treble and then fourth league title in a row came with much less depth in the squad compared to 2017-2022. Then, as that team has slowly fizzled out, we are left with a group of players of a lower standard now (bar the odd ones).
We barely bought a dud in Pep’s first half of his reign, but only really Gvardiol and Haaland have been absolute top class since.
But who’s been available, who wanted to come and who was affordable who are really elite players?
Kane, Rice, Bellingham, Wirtz have all been on our radar but we didn’t go for it with their prices… and, Kane aside, are they truly elite players? There’s a dearth of top quality in football at the moment. You could name numerous XIs last decade with numerous elite players in each position. But once you get past Kane, Haaland, Mbappe, Yamal, Hakimi and a couple of others now in world football, are there many truly elite players?
What current players in the sport would displace anyone from City’s 2017-2023, Liverpool’s 2018-2022 and Real Madrid’s 2015-2021 great sides?
An awful lot going on in CFG. New York alone is £850m investment.City is the jewel in the crown of Mansour.
10 billion valuation.
Not for sale.
Confidence shown from sponsors.
Not taken 1 pound out.
Delivers on commitment!
115 can’t say much which is crap but backs it up with he can’t wait to sit down after the verdict to speak about it. “A wonderful sit down together” -:)
He is going to go to town once we are cleared.
oakiecokie
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For those people who claim Khaldoon is not aware of the outcome, then just listen to his final seconds in the interview. I will NOT be swayed by other people who claim no-one knows the outcome. Wanna bet ?? !! ;)
Couldn`t be more clearer ref the outcome.
What a top geezer is our Mr. Cool.
Couldn`t be more clearer ref the outcome.
What a top geezer is our Mr. Cool.
There is no-one else. Khaldoon is Abu Dhabi's guy.Surely the Sheikh would just put another equally competent and experienced guy in from another area of his business interests. I wouldn't be running around screaming if he had to take a step back for health reasons or whatever anyway. Not that I think he's doing a bad job by any means.
He's the power behind the entire UAE throne.
Mubadala manages 385 billion usd.Some Official?
Is that your honest opinion of our Chairman, this Khaldoun AL Mubarak?
Khaldoon Khalifa Al Mubarak is an Emirati government official and business leader. Al Mubarak holds senior positions within the Government of Abu Dhabi, including as a member of the Executive Council since 2006, a member of the Supreme Council for Financial and Economic Affairs, and as the founding chairman of the Executive Affairs Authority. He fulfills responsibilities for the UAE Federal government and has served as Presidential Special Envoy to the People's Republic of China since 2018.
Al Mubarak is chief executive officer and managing director of Mubadala Investment Company. He is chairman of the football clubs Manchester City, Melbourne City and founding chairman of City Football Group. Al Mubarak is on the board of the UAE business ADNOC and serves as the Chairman of the Boards of the Emirates Nuclear Energy Corporation, Abu Dhabi Commercial Bank and Emirates Global Aluminium.
SOme official - i think not.
cleavers
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I've not watched it, just read his comments, if he doesn't know he's a very good actor.For those people who claim Khaldoon is not aware of the outcome, then just listen to his final seconds in the interview. I will NOT be swayed by other people who claim no-one knows the outcome. Wanna bet ?? !! ;)
Couldn`t be more clearer ref the outcome.
What a top geezer is our Mr. Cool.
Bentheblue
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Normally can’t be arsed reading long posts. Glad I made an exception for yours as it is an excellent read. Congrats.I think, especially after watching part 2, that what virtually all journalists and rival fans (and even a few on here) don’t quite ‘get’ is that City aren’t run like any other football club in world football.
Football, naturally enough given the emotion it engenders in everyone, has always been run on the basis of “what will win us our next game/ what will get us through to the end of the season”. Our owners have never taken that view. From day one it has always been a seriously long term view, decades into the future.
Football, particularly English football, just did not recognise that level of forward thinking. This country had fallen into the trap, for many years, of believing that football was always going to be a fait accompli. One of United, Liverpool, Arsenal, and at a pinch Chelsea, were always going to win the biggest prizes. For sure there may occasionally be a bone thrown to the masses with a FA cup/league cup shock - it keeps them coming back - but ultimately the game was sewn up for the Sky four.
And as an industry, this was not just accepted, but celebrated. There just wasn’t the ability to imagine an outsider with the wherewithal to hijack this cosy little club. And when City came along not only was this NOT celebrated, it was dismissed. And then targeted. And they’ve been trying to destroy us ever since. Everyone involved in any capacity with the game in this country, fans, owners, media, journalists, everyone, simply did not and still does not, have the mental capacity to understand that City weren’t just trying to win a league or two, they are purposely disrupting the game.
This lack of understanding lead directly to the charges. From the PL, they are simply a case of “kill them. Literally kill this football club. We cannot allow the also rans to be given ideas above the station we have given them.”
From everyone else, lead by the hateful English media, it isnt jealousy, or embedded fans of United/other clubs, it is simple ignorance of what HHSM is building. They just don’t understand the concept of building a football club from the ground up with a view that stretches 30 or 40 years into the distance. Because that’s never been done in the modern game.
Clubs and fans have been conditioned to accept that if they’re not one of the “big four” ( remember that term?) then their role is to be grateful for the odd point at old Trafford/anfield, and back home on the coach you go. See you next year.
And like sufferers of Stockholm syndrome they have embraced it. So much so that instead of looking at City and thinking “we could do with owners like that” they look at City and think “we need to get rid of these, they’re ruining the game”. The game that gave them fuck all and patted them on the head every season as one of the originals hoovered up most of the trophies and almost all the money.
We won’t change their minds in my lifetime, it will take decades.
So instead we’ll get to watch them torture themselves in Plymouth, derby, Middlesbrough, Ipswich et al as we continue to grow. And fuck them. I despise the also rans more than I do “the big four”. Because I despise rank stupidity.
Oh, and anyone watching part two who still has ANY doubt that we have/are going to shortly, win the charges case, watch it again. Does anybody seriously think this man and the men he represents has had any need or desire to act in a grubby manner? It’s more simple than that. He’s been operating far beyond their level of knowledge for years now and because they cannot fathom how a club like city could grow so far and so fast they have fallen back on the old comfort blanket “they must have cheated”. Because the truth is even more terrifying for them. “They’re cleverer than we thought and they decided they weren’t going to settle for the odd crumb”
Fuck them all. I can’t wait for the announcement day.
Keith Moon
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You've got to love that they saved the 115 question for last. Somewhere at City, there's a dramaturgical genius pulling the strings.
oakiecokie
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Outstanding Kazzy. Well done that man and this posts deserves thousands of likes.I think, especially after watching part 2, that what virtually all journalists and rival fans (and even a few on here) don’t quite ‘get’ is that City aren’t run like any other football club in world football.
Football, naturally enough given the emotion it engenders in everyone, has always been run on the basis of “what will win us our next game/ what will get us through to the end of the season”. Our owners have never taken that view. From day one it has always been a seriously long term view, decades into the future.
Football, particularly English football, just did not recognise that level of forward thinking. This country had fallen into the trap, for many years, of believing that football was always going to be a fait accompli. One of United, Liverpool, Arsenal, and at a pinch Chelsea, were always going to win the biggest prizes. For sure there may occasionally be a bone thrown to the masses with a FA cup/league cup shock - it keeps them coming back - but ultimately the game was sewn up for the Sky four.
And as an industry, this was not just accepted, but celebrated. There just wasn’t the ability to imagine an outsider with the wherewithal to hijack this cosy little club. And when City came along not only was this NOT celebrated, it was dismissed. And then targeted. And they’ve been trying to destroy us ever since. Everyone involved in any capacity with the game in this country, fans, owners, media, journalists, everyone, simply did not and still does not, have the mental capacity to understand that City weren’t just trying to win a league or two, they are purposely disrupting the game.
This lack of understanding lead directly to the charges. From the PL, they are simply a case of “kill them. Literally kill this football club. We cannot allow the also rans to be given ideas above the station we have given them.”
From everyone else, lead by the hateful English media, it isnt jealousy, or embedded fans of United/other clubs, it is simple ignorance of what HHSM is building. They just don’t understand the concept of building a football club from the ground up with a view that stretches 30 or 40 years into the distance. Because that’s never been done in the modern game.
Clubs and fans have been conditioned to accept that if they’re not one of the “big four” ( remember that term?) then their role is to be grateful for the odd point at old Trafford/anfield, and back home on the coach you go. See you next year.
And like sufferers of Stockholm syndrome they have embraced it. So much so that instead of looking at City and thinking “we could do with owners like that” they look at City and think “we need to get rid of these, they’re ruining the game”. The game that gave them fuck all and patted them on the head every season as one of the originals hoovered up most of the trophies and almost all the money.
We won’t change their minds in my lifetime, it will take decades.
So instead we’ll get to watch them torture themselves in Plymouth, derby, Middlesbrough, Ipswich et al as we continue to grow. And fuck them. I despise the also rans more than I do “the big four”. Because I despise rank stupidity.
Oh, and anyone watching part two who still has ANY doubt that we have/are going to shortly, win the charges case, watch it again. Does anybody seriously think this man and the men he represents has had any need or desire to act in a grubby manner? It’s more simple than that. He’s been operating far beyond their level of knowledge for years now and because they cannot fathom how a club like city could grow so far and so fast they have fallen back on the old comfort blanket “they must have cheated”. Because the truth is even more terrifying for them. “They’re cleverer than we thought and they decided they weren’t going to settle for the odd crumb”
Fuck them all. I can’t wait for the announcement day.
oakiecokie
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A BAFTA is on its way ... as you say if its not true. ;)I've not watched it, just read his comments, if he doesn't know he's a very good actor.
Francis Crawford
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Thanks for the explanation Sherlock ! He said he was talking about the value of the CFG ? , and seen as though their was only City envolved when they bought us ,what would u like him to compare it too ?Hes quoting current CFG stats and comparing to City’s old value. Current value of City is about £3bn.
Hope the rain clears up near u soon !
yerwot?
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Game, set and match.... clickbait nil facts ten,Some Official?
Is that your honest opinion of our Chairman, this Khaldoun AL Mubarak?
Khaldoon Khalifa Al Mubarak is an Emirati government official and business leader. Al Mubarak holds senior positions within the Government of Abu Dhabi, including as a member of the Executive Council since 2006, a member of the Supreme Council for Financial and Economic Affairs, and as the founding chairman of the Executive Affairs Authority. He fulfills responsibilities for the UAE Federal government and has served as Presidential Special Envoy to the People's Republic of China since 2018.
Al Mubarak is chief executive officer and managing director of Mubadala Investment Company. He is chairman of the football clubs Manchester City, Melbourne City and founding chairman of City Football Group. Al Mubarak is on the board of the UAE business ADNOC and serves as the Chairman of the Boards of the Emirates Nuclear Energy Corporation, Abu Dhabi Commercial Bank and Emirates Global Aluminium.
SOme official - i think not.
Kippax Street 1880
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Some Official?
Is that your honest opinion of our Chairman, this Khaldoun AL Mubarak?
Khaldoon Khalifa Al Mubarak is an Emirati government official and business leader. Al Mubarak holds senior positions within the Government of Abu Dhabi, including as a member of the Executive Council since 2006, a member of the Supreme Council for Financial and Economic Affairs, and as the founding chairman of the Executive Affairs Authority. He fulfills responsibilities for the UAE Federal government and has served as Presidential Special Envoy to the People's Republic of China since 2018.
Al Mubarak is chief executive officer and managing director of Mubadala Investment Company. He is chairman of the football clubs Manchester City, Melbourne City and founding chairman of City Football Group. Al Mubarak is on the board of the UAE business ADNOC and serves as the Chairman of the Boards of the Emirates Nuclear Energy Corporation, Abu Dhabi Commercial Bank and Emirates Global Aluminium.
SOme official - i think not.
I don't doubt the Sheikh has 10 more Khaldoons waiting in the wings as impressive as he is. Its easier to find top level boardroom operators who know how to think long term when you have the contacts of a Sheikh than it is to replace a one off like Pep.