The "Swales Out" Campaign

ALL OUR LIVES said:
He loved City and had things worked out on the pitch would have been a hero.

The campaign to oust him was a disgrace. Forward with Franny. Well that worked didn't it.

Peter Swales remains entrenched in our history.

He was ALWAYS a fan, my old man told me he use to be after his sister when he was young (my aunty) and they used to live in Beswick,round the corner from him.

just found this
The story of Peter Swales, who died three days before Manchester City lost their place in the Premiership, and of his former partner Noel White, is worthy of Thomas Hardy. The two men formed a small business (radio and hi fi) at exactly the right time - in the early Sixties - when technological advance and rising affluence met, for a huge market to be crested. Their prosperity gave the partners the time and money to indulge in a hobby, in their case a local football club, Altrincham.

Their knowledge, enthusiasm, hard work and choice of managers, turned Altrincham from nobodies into one of the leading clubs outside the Football League.

In nearby Manchester the two big clubs, United and City, were not far off parity. Would United ever recover from the loss of Matt Busby's shrewdness and wisdom? Could City, the major club pre-war, overtake them again? The essential difference lay in the boardrooms: United managed to keep any friction to themselves; City, the more friendly and open club, kept their heart on their sleeve.

At Maine Road, a majority shareholding became available in 1973. City's directors wanted someone with money and preferably with a knowledge and love of football. One director rang me: "Did I think White and Swales might be interested ?"

I telephoned Swales and put the question to him. There was a pause and he replied "Yes, I think I would". I passed on the City director's number only vaguely aware that history might be being made.

In recent years it has become fashionable to denigrate Swales. While Noel White went into the hotel busines and from there to the Liverpool Board and chairmanship, Swales applied fierce energy to two ambitions: first to put City ahead of United and second to win a personal position of power within the game.

He achieved the second but the first proved beyond him, and in his impatience to succeed he appointed and sacked 11 managers, many of them good choices. While he was a generous supporter of the managers in their transfer dealings he could interfere. Malcolm Allison, City's most prodigious spender, relatively, on transfers, always maintained that one of Swales's most extraordinary deals, the signing of an almost unknown Wolves midfielder Tony Daley for the then phenomenal sum of pounds 1 million, was done behind his back.

Allison had agreed a much lesser fee with the Wolves' manager and had turned his attention elsewhere while Wolves waited for boardroom ratification. Swales, according to Allison, intervened on a chairman to chairman basis and secured the transfer instantly but at a much higher price.

Thus it would be fair to say that no manager felt entirely secure with Swales. The situation might never have become threatening, however, but for the arrival of Alex Ferguson at Old Trafford. City, who for a decade had had the pick of local promise, found a reconstructed United with them on every school and youth club touchline. Ferguson also used United's greater financial resources to better effect in the transfer market as he rebuilt Busby's empire. The pressure for such success at Maine Road grew heavier almost daily.

White had risen with Liverpool to unparalleled success and Swales's consolation was a climb through the ranks of the FA until he became chairman of the International Committee, the body that controls the England management. The choice of Graham Taylor to succeed Bobby Robson was greeted, at the time, with almost universal approval, but the honeymoon did not last.

When Swales found a manager who might have taken City back to the summit, Howard Kendall, he soon lost him to Everton. He did find another, Peter Reid, who showed promise, but the progress wasn't fast enough and Reid had to go, a decision that Swales admitted afterwards was a mistake.

And when United started to win again on a regular bias, the support at Maine Road became increasingly challenging, confrontational and bitter.

Once Francis Lee, a City hero of the 1970s and millionaire businessman, had expres-sed an interest in taking over City, Swales's days were numbered. His boardroom position was still sound, but the violence of the attacks by fans, at Maine Road, and against his family, eventually persuaded him to stand down although he retain-ed his position with the FA.

City offered him the privileges and perks of a life presidency but he never returned to Maine Road.

City's relegation, last Monday, would have twisted his heart. Peter Swales died unswerving in his belief that Manchester City could be a bigger club than United.


Think at the time Peter came in to City all football clubs had the same sort of chairmen..Louis Edwards,Bob Lord.. etc Swales crime was he wanted it TODAY & could not wait for Tomorrow.
He got our gates up to a 44000 average i remember.
 
fbloke said:
But strangely that's the reason why I am so massively buzzing with the current set-up.

They say little but do lots.

So you think the Sheikh is better for City than Franny or Swales, fbloke?
 
Didsbury Dave said:
fbloke said:
But strangely that's the reason why I am so massively buzzing with the current set-up.

They say little but do lots.

So you think the Sheikh is better for City than Franny or Swales, fbloke?

Marginally so I suppose.

But its a tough call in truth!
 
nevilletogoater-in said:
Is there any more stories from what it was like?

Here's another for you:

At the height of the battle between Swales and Lee, someone got Lee a seat in the Director's Box for one of the home games.

Franny arrived in a sky blue blazer a little after kickoff afer being mobbed on the way in. Probably on purpose, too. As he entered the Directors box a buzz went right round the Main Stand and every head turned. Franny, the perennial showman, stood up and raised his hands. The whole Main Stand gave hima raptourous reception which spread around the whole ground. Swales sat there three rows in front, mortified. A chant started and boomed round the whole of Maine Road "Swales out! Swales Out! Swales Out!"

Electric stuff.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
nevilletogoater-in said:
Is there any more stories from what it was like?

Here's another for you:

At the height of the battle between Swales and Lee, someone got Lee a seat in the Director's Box for one of the home games.

Franny arrived in a sky blue blazer a little after kickoff afer being mobbed on the way in. Probably on purpose, too. As he entered the Directors box a buzz went right round the Main Stand and every head turned. Franny, the perennial showman, stood up and raised his hands. The whole Main Stand gave hima raptourous reception which spread around the whole ground. Swales sat there three rows in front, mortified. A chant started and boomed round the whole of Maine Road "Swales out! Swales Out! Swales Out!"

Electric stuff.


Franny to Colin Bell, 'You're sacked, you can finish at the end of the day'.

Franny had to be addressed by everyone as 'Mr Chairman'

He apparently only insisted on Earl Grey tea, too!
 
Great thread.

Like many others I was too young to understand what was going on behind the scenes but I do remember the protests in and outside the ground, especially the sit in for some strange reason. I remember every game being extremely hostile and the whole atmosphere being very tense, it was quite exciting for a 8/9 year old I tell ya.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Here's another for you:

At the height of the battle between Swales and Lee, someone got Lee a seat in the Director's Box for one of the home games.

Franny arrived in a sky blue blazer a little after kickoff afer being mobbed on the way in. Probably on purpose, too. As he entered the Directors box a buzz went right round the Main Stand and every head turned. Franny, the perennial showman, stood up and raised his hands. The whole Main Stand gave hima raptourous reception which spread around the whole ground. Swales sat there three rows in front, mortified. A chant started and boomed round the whole of Maine Road "Swales out! Swales Out! Swales Out!"

Electric stuff.


Franny to Colin Bell, 'You're sacked, you can finish at the end of the day'.

Franny had to be addressed by everyone as 'Mr Chairman'

He apparently only insisted on Earl Grey tea, too!

He summarily ended a number of players City careers irrespective of the managers.

He got very lucky on two fronts, one being the new stadium and another being Kinladze.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Franny, the perennial showman, stood up and raised his hands. The whole Main Stand gave hima raptourous reception which spread around the whole ground. Swales sat there three rows in front, mortified. A chant started and boomed round the whole of Maine Road "Swales out! Swales Out! Swales Out!"

Electric stuff.

It was all a bit pantomime. Big cheers for Lee, Boos for Swales.

I said I wasn't going to say much about all of this but a few more points....

- the Bill Taylor comment is right (a great coach). The arrival of Allison brought a premature end to his City time and, almost without exception, every player from that period felt Taylor was an enormous influence (at City & England!).
- Allison's return was (according to Swales) something Swales was talked into by other directors.
- For about a decade of Swales time at City he had hardly any shares. He claimed he was given 10 to become a director. During the pre-1983 period Swales was only Chairman because the majority of other shareholders wanted him to be, so they are equally responsible for this period. They could - and should - have controlled his more negative aspects.
- Attendances - yes support did increase for a while & there were great link ups with the Supporters Club, Jnr Blues etc. But in 1993 (his last full season) average was 24,698 - In 1972 it was 38,573.
- in 1987-88 attendances were 19,471 - the fifth lowest since 1903 (and only the 3rd lowest ever at Maine Rd).
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Franny to Colin Bell, 'You're sacked, you can finish at the end of the day'.

I don't think they speak to this day.

Have you ever seen the Sky "Legends" City program which gets rerun from time to time? Lee, Summerbee and Tommy Booth are on it, talking City.

You can sense the tension betwen Buzzer and Lee on that.
 
He got very lucky on two fronts, one being the new stadium and another being Kinladze.

& VERY VERY VERY unlucky with.... xxxx xxxx sorry cannot even say his name
not to mention agggggg Buster ...agggggggggggg

i thought the Franny area was a bad dream... wished he had jumped off the kippax in truth
 
Longsight-memories said:
He got very lucky on two fronts, one being the new stadium and another being Kinladze.

& VERY VERY VERY unlucky with.... xxxx xxxx sorry cannot even say his name
not to mention agggggg Buster ...agggggggggggg

i thought the Franny area was a bad dream... wished he had jumped off the kippax in truth

XXXX XXXX ?

You can tell me it wont go any further.

;-)

Fb
 
these are the best threads...........so much intrigue,

i think the fanzines played a pivotal role in all of this.............

it was such a fascinating time..................

the big question.................

just who was STEPHEN BOLER.....the real power behind Swales ?????
 
Didsbury Dave said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Franny to Colin Bell, 'You're sacked, you can finish at the end of the day'.

I don't think they speak to this day.

Have you ever seen the Sky "Legends" City program which gets rerun from time to time? Lee, Summerbee and Tommy Booth are on it, talking City.

You can sense the tension betwen Buzzer and Lee on that.


Summerbee is caught between the two, wanting to be friends with both.

Colin was absolutely heartbroken and was doing a great job with the kids at the time.

They also knifed Tony Book, Peter Reid got to hear about it and made him his scout at Sunderland for a while.

Franny thinks he was the main man, but Colin will always be king.

Nice guys might finish last as they say, but class is permanent.
 
kismet said:
these are the best threads...........so much intrigue,

i think the fanzines played a pivotal role in all of this.............

it was such a fascinating time..................

the big question.................

just who was STEPHEN BOLER.....the real power behind Swales ?????

Its on this thread...major shareholder who went to Africa then died.

Also, Greenalls were a major shareholder and had the beer contract in the ground.

these were the guys who propped Swales up.
 
just who was STEPHEN BOLER.....the real power behind Swales ?????
scrap metal man from failsworth ??? got killed ny a rhino?? OWNED MERE GOLF club i WAS WRONG

HE HAD A HEART ATTACK IN south africa, (maybe he got chased by a rhino?)...& he sold tyres


Boler started as a 16 year old trainee at the multinational Unilever.[1] He made his first fortune in the 1970s, selling cut-price tyre and exhaust systems.[2] Later he founded a kitchen and bathrooms business called Limelight, and made £40 million when he sold it.[3] Limelight, now known as HomeForm Group, includes household names such as Dolphin Showers, Kitchens Direct, Moben Kitchens and Sharps bedrooms.[2]

In 1983 he bought Mere Golf and Country Club in Cheshire, handing this over to his son in 1994 when Mark was 22. Stephen had separated from his wife, and his son, whom he sent to the independent school Millfield,[4] recalls him as teaching lessons of working hard.[2] Stephen Boler was the largest shareholder of Manchester City football team[3]
 
kismet said:
these are the best threads...........so much intrigue,

i think the fanzines played a pivotal role in all of this.............

it was such a fascinating time..................

the big question.................

just who was STEPHEN BOLER.....the real power behind Swales ?????

He was one of those businessmen who (like Swales) was in the right place at the right time.

He got into home alarms just as they took off, fitted kitchens when there was massive profit in it, bathrooms when every man and his dog was adding a power shower etc etc

He lumped loads of cash into Africa and a game reserve as well as things like Mere Golf and Country blah blah.

He died relatively young, as did one of his sons.

He bought into City not as a fan but more as an investment.
 
kismet said:
these are the best threads...........so much intrigue,

i think the fanzines played a pivotal role in all of this.............

it was such a fascinating time..................

the big question.................

just who was STEPHEN BOLER.....the real power behind Swales ?????


He wasn't a football fan, a mate of Swales, he retained the majority of the shares.

His rep was an accountant called Ashley Thomas.

Owned Limelight Group - Dolphin Bathrooms and Moben Kitchens.

Family own Mere Golf and Country.

He died of a heart attack in Africa I think saving the rhino.

He was the real power.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
kismet said:
these are the best threads...........so much intrigue,

i think the fanzines played a pivotal role in all of this.............

it was such a fascinating time..................

the big question.................

just who was STEPHEN BOLER.....the real power behind Swales ?????

Its on this thread...major shareholder who went to Africa then died.

Also, Greenalls were a major shareholder and had the beer contract in the ground.

these were the guys who propped Swales up.



Preferred the more uptempo version

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