The "Swales Out" Campaign

As someone said before if there had been no Swales then Lee at the helm there would have been no Gillingham play off etc - great days in their own right for us that personally I wouldn't swap for the world. To me all of the barren years just make the love for City stronger and will make it even better when win something.

I do wonder what our honours list would look like if Swales regime hadn't carried on as long as it did though. In the years since 1976 the likes of Everton have won 2 leagues and cups, Leeds have won the league, Villa have won the league, the League Cup and European Cup, Spurs have won FA Cups, League Cups and the UEFA Cup, we know what the Rags and the dippers have won and we have won precisely fuck all.

Having Sheikh Mansour after having Swales, Lee and dodgy Frank must be karma. We have a long way to go before we even come close to breaking even for those years!
 
jay_mcfc said:
Was it under Lee that Dave Bassett agreed to become our manager then apparently pulled out on the morning it was supposed to be announced?
thats right jay but i remember him being interviewed on tv and saying i didn,t take the city job because i had a nightmare the night before i gave my decision, fk me he would have had a bigger nightmare from us lot if the boring t--t had taken it?
 
What is it that makes us City fans? What is it that gives us our identity?

It is our tragicomic past and the stories that accompany it.

Of course all clubs have there 'oh so typical' anecdotes, but ours define our club and us as supporters.

The Second World War must have been hellish to live through at the time, but people who did were never short of stories to tell about it, and usually viewed it nostalgically. And so it is with us.

And who was responsible for this state of affairs above all others?..... Peter Swales.

And thus Swales with his cuban heels, ridiculous comb-over, over-inflated ego, and undignified desire to cling on to power no matter what logic dictated is more than any other factor why we are what we are today.

Would I change it if I could?

Not for all the tea in China.
 
mancunial said:
jay_mcfc said:
Was it under Lee that Dave Bassett agreed to become our manager then apparently pulled out on the morning it was supposed to be announced?
thats right jay but i remember him being interviewed on tv and saying i didn,t take the city job because i had a nightmare the night before i gave my decision, fk me he would have had a bigger nightmare from us lot if the boring t--t had taken it?
I'm pretty sure he was Palace manager and they had turned us over the day before at Selhurst Park when he made his u turn!!
 
As a 15 year old, it's fascinating to hear about the history of our club, I remember watching that Sky Legends thing which was mentioned earlier on and thought that Buzzer was avoiding conversation with Lee, who seemed to think his opinion was always right.
 
Great memories. Chanting on the forecoat, candles, sit-ins etc. It was all exciting stuff.

Wasn't Lee's first game the league postponement against Ipswich where we came from behind before it was called off? Maybe we should have realised it would all finish in tears.
 
jay_mcfc said:
So did Swales know that Franny would be a disaster?

No. He hated him because of the way he used the press and fans to oust him.

There were also stories of a big bust up when he sold Lee. Lee is rumoured to have said "You'll regret the day you sold me".

12 months on Lee scored the winner for a title-bound Derby at Maine Road and went ballistic.

"look at his face....just look at his face!!!!"
 
Didsbury Dave said:
The "Swales Out" campaign was a pivotal moment in our recent history. I thought I'd jot down a few memories of this battle and see what others remember.

My first memory of a groundswell of opinion was in the mid eighties, I susepct during the relegation season of 1987. Leaflets were given out on the Kippax describing the man's lies and incomptetence. At this point we'd recovered fromt he shockr elegation of 83 yet were on our wy back down again. Fans were horrified as most had grown up with City at the top table - back then the fact that we'd only won one trophy in 17 years was decreed as a major issue.

I'm sure the first demonstrations started then, outside the Main STand after games, and I remember bricks being thrown at the windows there which got caged. This campaign petered out and we eventually got ourselves back to the top division again, even into the top 6, but simmering resentment of him never died. I remember an away game, I'm sure it was Everton, at the beginning of a season, , maybe 1990, where a banner was unfurled saying "£6m? Swales you fucking liar" and it was removed. He'd promised us A fortune to spend to ensure season ticket sales then spent nothing.

Thingsd were building to a head again after Swales appointed John Maddock as his henchman, and he immediately sacked the popular Peter Reid after a couple of poor performacnes right at the beginning of a season. This was the catalyst and the hatred boiled over and the demos started again.

This time Franny Lee saw and opprtunity and very publically, through Alec Johnson of The Mirror, announced his intention to oust Swales. I was living in London and still remember seeing the back back of the Mirror one day "Franny Lee Steps Forward at City!" it screamed. The fans were united. He was the man to save us. Hell, The Mirror, followe dby the Sun, threw their weight behind Franny and the demonstrations reached a huge crescedo. This may seem odd, but there's be 3000 fans chanting "We want Swales Out" on the forecourt ofter the game and both the Mirror and The Sun were giving out badges spporting Franny Lee with their logo on. i've still got one somewhere.

Swales hung on as the pressure increased. He started to realsie his time was up as the campaign intensified. Franny Lee got organsied, recruited Colin Barlow and began to wipe the floor with Swales in the PR war. Outside the Main Stand it was bedlam every week. Riot police were charging, the lot.

We the fans got organised. Fans called for himsto stand down at the AGAM. There was even a show of hands of shareholders which showed a majority wanted him out. But it mattered nothing because the major shareholders stood by him. We had a sit in on the Kippax after one game. There was a display of candles one televised game which Swales tried to disrupt by having them removed from people. The battle raged. The fans upped their game and things got nasty. Sometimes the whole ground appeared to chant "We want Swales Out!" One night a leaflet was handed round the pubs in South Manchester with Swale's address on. The police had to secure his property and he went into hiding. A story emereged that City fans broke into a nursing home ad verbally abused his sick mother. This was never proved, incidentally.

Swales knew he couldn't hang on but still seemed detirmined not to sell to Franny. He tried to find other buyers for the club and I think he even found a potential one.

Then, one board meeting, at Swales's house, I believe, his henchmen finally turned on him and for the first time outvoted him on Franny Lee's offer. He was finished, a broken man, and died soon after.

The minute's silence for him at Maine Road was perfectly observed.

Who here was involved? And who can flesh out my vague memories, which might be tainted by time?

Me. I was certainly involved. He was a disaster.

I knew something was wrong when Tony Book was kicked upstairs.

We had a side packed with internationals and potential / future internationals. We'd also come second in the league behind the dippers.

Joe Corrigan, Kenny Clements, Dave Watson, Mike Doyle, Willie Donachie, Asa Hartford, Gary Owen, Peter Barnes, Dennis Tueart, Mike Channon, Brian Kidd.

Imagine if Bell hadn't been injured by Buchan (never forgave him for that).

Wasn't Swales responsible for selling Lee as well?

Everything went downhill after Tony. Allison ripped the heart of the team out and within a year or two we were fighting relegation. Joe Corrigan almost single handedly kept us up in about '78/79.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
And who was responsible for this state of affairs above all others?..... Peter Swales.

And thus Swales with his cuban heels, ridiculous comb-over, over-inflated ego, and undignified desire to cling on to power no matter what logic dictated is more than any other factor why we are what we are today.

Would I change it if I could?

Not for all the tea in China.

Thats the spirit!

Didn't he own a record store in Altrincham?

Obviously not as much talent as Richard Branson. Richard's first business was Virgin Records and one of his first stores was in the Arndale centre.
 
fbloke said:
We got Franny and as you all now know he made some awful decisions, was worse than Swales for getting involved in team affairs and had now real desire to invest in the club.

Swales might well have loved the power as much as the club, but it is my humble opinion, based on conversations I had with all of those big names at that time (including Buzzer BTW) that FHL loved City less, far less. FHL was in it for profit and for profile.

I can well believe that.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I can only imagine that Swales thought that anyone but him would be a disaster.

As I presumed.

Now I'm interested in who you, Dave and especially fbloke really are seeing as you've all got very close connections to past boardrooms!
 
Swales, not a true City fan, was the biggest disaster to ever hit City, he ran the club to suit himself had a hugh ego with his comb over hair and his cuban heels Financially he just borrowed more and more money, he even told me that you can always borrow more When he finally capitulated he had done as much as possible to wreck the new owners serving his own selfish vengeance at the expense of City. Even at the signing of the agreement he changed his mind and demanded more, bought a new top of the range full loaded Jag weeks before and had that as part of the deal. He signed up contracts that hamstrung FHL sucking all his money to pay off, this included his own company who had a very lucrative contract to supply TVs. He more than anyone else is responsible for the years of hurt, the man was a twat end of and I would dance on his grave. What ever you think of FHL he rescued the company from the brink of bankruptcy there is no doubt that Swales had come to the end of the line he just held out for more and didn't give two hoots for the club or the fans.
 
howfen blue said:
mancunial said:
thats right jay but i remember him being interviewed on tv and saying i didn,t take the city job because i had a nightmare the night before i gave my decision, fk me he would have had a bigger nightmare from us lot if the boring t--t had taken it?
I'm pretty sure he was Palace manager and they had turned us over the day before at Selhurst Park when he made his u turn!!


No Palace played at Gigg Lane v Bury in a cup game.

It was midweek and a few of us went along to welcome him - he told us that night in car park he wasn't coming.

Hence Steve Coppell was appointed couple days later.

I know it was only 34 days, guys, but please keep up.
 
Boring these days, isn't it?

(I'm half serious with that too)

The Swales and Lee takeover era saw people fuming but looking back I remember it as containing some top comedy.

The bloke running on the pitch and dragging his family with him.
Brian Who (turned out to be a top bloke)
Alan Ball's World Cup Winner's medal
Lee milking it in the crowd
Geoff Thomas walking up the fucking moterway
Harry Bassett taking the piss and shitting himself at 6 in the morning.
Coppell
Phil Neal
Frank Clark
A bloke running on during a night game against Oxford (or could have been Port Vale) when we were getting pasted in the first half and giving Nigel Clough a piece of his mind.
Swales Out demos
Lomas in the corner.
Polllock's own goal
Frank Clark hearing he was sacked on the radio
Planes flying over with Swales Out/Forward With Franny banners.
Demos after that night game where Huddersfield won
'What the fuck is going on' chants
'We're shit and we're sick of it' chants.
That FA Cup Quater Final against Spurs with everyone convinced we had won the cup already.
And that's off the top of my head.

Might be to do with the fact that I was a teenager at the time of all that, but I definitely used to find it all exciting in a strange way.
 
I am glad the majority of all this was happening at a time when my mind and commitments were on other things than City.

Two years on the dole, Pregnant Girlfriend,first job,first promotion, big mortgage, wife having an affair,Divorce, a fight against repossession, another promotion etc.

I only had the Fanzines for information and I was barely at Maine Road for a lot of this period.

After reading some of the stuff posted here today I am glad I was ignorant on most matters. It could have been the straw that broke the Camels back and pushed me over the edge.
 

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