A pretty patronising post to be honest, I'm in my 50's and sang nearly every song on Saturday at West Ham, the smoke bombs didn't liven anything up, unless by livening it up you mean 25 old bill stood in the aisles blocking people's views and causing arguments ?BlueHalli said:[The thing is, these people with smoke bombs have no intention of goin around giving people a kicking or goin around in a firm lookin for trouble. That was your day and you were prob gettin stuck in back then and having a good time !. Now those days are gone for the likes of the older bunch and they want to just relax and watch a game of football and expect the younger lot to follow suit . You've had your wild time, fook everyone else .
Younger fans are sick of the way the modern game has gone and they just want to try and liven it up a little by doin things like lettin off smoke bombs . They're bloody harmless !. They ent flares like what killed that lad . Comparing the two is like comparing a sparkler(although a sparkler is prob more halmful than a smoke bomb) to a rocket fire work .
BlueHalli said:awaydayblue said:Encountered similar problems at Napoli away, then at Goodison, where fellow Blues were hit by them, one a young girl. When a flare/smoke bomb/firecracker (whatever they are) one does cause a serious injury or worse, and it will, maybe then something will be done about it. For anyone who thinks it is all a bit of a joke, just check out the flare which hit and killed a person at the Millenium Stadium a few years ago, ring their family up and try convincing them it is all a bit of laugh / harmless fun...................That's my take on the matter, for what it's worth..........
Was that the one where it was shot across the stadium from a gun ? . If so, fookin el ! Comparing that to a canister that Amit's a bit of smoke !. People just worry too much these days . A few smoke bombs go off and some think it's world war three !.
They're harmless unless thrown towards a person. The same can be said for pretty much anything !. Shall we ban loose change and sets of keys because they can become 'unsafe' in the wrong hands .
kinkysleftfoot said:BlueHalli said:awaydayblue said:Encountered similar problems at Napoli away, then at Goodison, where fellow Blues were hit by them, one a young girl. When a flare/smoke bomb/firecracker (whatever they are) one does cause a serious injury or worse, and it will, maybe then something will be done about it. For anyone who thinks it is all a bit of a joke, just check out the flare which hit and killed a person at the Millenium Stadium a few years ago, ring their family up and try convincing them it is all a bit of laugh / harmless fun...................That's my take on the matter, for what it's worth..........
Was that the one where it was shot across the stadium from a gun ? . If so, fookin el ! Comparing that to a canister that Amit's a bit of smoke !. People just worry too much these days . A few smoke bombs go off and some think it's world war three !.
They're harmless unless thrown towards a person. The same can be said for pretty much anything !. Shall we ban loose change and sets of keys because they can become 'unsafe' in the wrong hands .
No we don't think it's world war three.......believe me as I've been in a war, have you?
Just a time and a place for everything and in a confined area is not the right place
cleavers said:That's part of the issue being raised, they are thrown, or at least rolled down the steps, because the person doing so, doesn't want trouble from the old bill, if one goes off near a kid that is unaware they are a problem, as has been described in the thread, chucking them at the linesman isn't exactly safe either.BlueHalli said:They're harmless unless thrown towards a person.
BlueHalli said:Younger fans are sick of the way the modern game has gone and they just want to try and liven it up a little by doin things like lettin off smoke bombs . They're bloody harmless !. They ent flares like what killed that lad . Comparing the two is like comparing a sparkler(although a sparkler is prob more halmful than a smoke bomb) to a rocket fire work .
Eccles Blue said:BlueHalli said:Younger fans are sick of the way the modern game has gone and they just want to try and liven it up a little by doin things like lettin off smoke bombs . They're bloody harmless !. They ent flares like what killed that lad . Comparing the two is like comparing a sparkler(although a sparkler is prob more halmful than a smoke bomb) to a rocket fire work .
But throwing/rolling flares/smoke bombs is NOT the 'modern game' is it?? I thought the modern game was a football match and that's what I go for, to watch a football match. And they are NOT harmless, read the posts about people being injured and even killed. But hey why worry about people's health and well being, you want to have some 'fun' rather than see a good game of football so what does it matter about other people. You have your 'fun' and when someone gets killed/badly burned you can have a laugh about it!! JMHO
If you want to throw flares/smoke bombs go and do it on the croft down the road, at least you won't be hurting anyone down there or stopping them watching what they pay good money for, a football match!!
BlueHalli said:Eccles Blue said:BlueHalli said:Younger fans are sick of the way the modern game has gone and they just want to try and liven it up a little by doin things like lettin off smoke bombs . They're bloody harmless !. They ent flares like what killed that lad . Comparing the two is like comparing a sparkler(although a sparkler is prob more halmful than a smoke bomb) to a rocket fire work .
But throwing/rolling flares/smoke bombs is NOT the 'modern game' is it?? I thought the modern game was a football match and that's what I go for, to watch a football match. And they are NOT harmless, read the posts about people being injured and even killed. But hey why worry about people's health and well being, you want to have some 'fun' rather than see a good game of football so what does it matter about other people. You have your 'fun' and when someone gets killed/badly burned you can have a laugh about it!! JMHO
If you want to throw flares/smoke bombs go and do it on the croft down the road, at least you won't be hurting anyone down there or stopping them watching what they pay good money for, a football match!!
Read the previous posts regarding the difference between smoke bombs and flares . Or did you choose to ignore that ?.
By modern game, I mean the way we are expected to do as we're told no matter what it is . Stay seated, don't swear ect .
I don't want to go throwing smoke bombs around but it just winds me up how people over react about things . I have no problem with them unless thrown but that goes for anything . It's just one big over reaction .
no highlighted the relevant bit. I've stated earlier in the thread that they don't actually bother me much.BlueHalli said:cleavers said:That's part of the issue being raised, they are thrown, or at least rolled down the steps, because the person doing so, doesn't want trouble from the old bill, if one goes off near a kid that is unaware they are a problem, as has been described in the thread, chucking them at the linesman isn't exactly safe either.BlueHalli said:They're harmless unless thrown towards a person.
But you edited the part where I basically said using anything as a missile is dangerous . Again, shall we be made to bin our lighters and loose change as they can also be thrown .
People tend to just drop them or roll them a few yards along the ground . Hardly goin to take someone's head off . Prob got more chance gettin harmed by fag ash whilst goin to the toilet .
You clearly haven't been at the back of either anfield road, or the trevor brooking, its probably more confined than the concourse, not to mention others.without a dream said:A stand isn't a confined area. I agree they shouldn't be let off in concourses though.