Good summary of the ref on MNF

Paul Lake's Left Knee said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
stonerblue said:
Was it Clough or Shankly that had it right?
Shankly.

Clough said "if he's not interfering with play whats he doing on the pitch?" and Shankly said "If a player is not interfering with play or seeking to gain an advantage, then he should be."

In that case they're both right.

How can a player be stood inside the 6 yard box and not be interfering?
 
hes obviously interfering with play cos if he doesn't move the ball hits him in the face , and if that would of happened he would of been flagged offside.
 
Neville had it spot on again last night and to be fair to the man, he normally does.

The ref had a stinker of a game full stop and the offside was just the beginning of his bad day at the office.
 
blueinsa said:
Neville had it spot on again last night and to be fair to the man, he normally does.

The ref had a stinker of a game full stop and the offside was just the beginning of his bad day at the office.
It was a pretty good debate with carragher
Your right though he nailed most of it & went into depth on everything involved when the goal wasn't given.
 
The cookie monster said:
blueinsa said:
Neville had it spot on again last night and to be fair to the man, he normally does.

The ref had a stinker of a game full stop and the offside was just the beginning of his bad day at the office.
It was a pretty good debate with carragher
Your right though he nailed most of it & went into depth off everything involved when the goal wasn't given.

My issue with all refs is that they dont apply the laws of the game, they rather interpret them to suit themselves and its that action that causes the controversies.

He fucked up yesterday but instead of admitting it and getting on with it, he then decides to try and even things up, effectively favouring one side over the other and you just cant do that.

2 clear sendings off yet he decides he is going to ignore the laws of the game and not give the correct decisions.

Its cheating full stop and they all do it.
 
By the rules of the game, he was clearly offside.

Interfering with an opponent
preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or movements or making a gesture or movement which, in the opinion of the referee, deceives or distracts an opponent.

A goalkeeper does not have time to consciously gauge wether or not a player is offside and part of the play when a shot is coming at them, so Joe Hart's thought process will have been (i) Is this shot going straight into the corner? (ii) Is this shot going to deflect off the player into the other corner?

The fact that he had to evaluate those options before diving for the ball means that the player has interfered, plain and simple. And the rules aren't black and white either ("in the opinion of the referee") meaning that the level of interference is open to interpretation.
 
Blue Til Death said:
All the fair and balanced punditry by rat boy will never erase my complete and utter loathing of the horrible rag C**T
What a shame.
He's a pleasure to listen to where football is concerned. Rarely gets it wrong and never tries to dismiss clubs he himself may not be too fond of. Stark contrast to his debut, which was a total laughing stock.
 
Pigeonho said:
Blue Til Death said:
All the fair and balanced punditry by rat boy will never erase my complete and utter loathing of the horrible rag C**T
What a shame.
He's a pleasure to listen to where football is concerned. Rarely gets it wrong and never tries to dismiss clubs he himself may not be too fond of. Stark contrast to his debut, which was a total laughing stock.

Point taken mate but once dissed forever pissed and he's dissed our club more than I care to recall.. ;-)
 

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