SKYSCRAPER CALLED OFF - POLICE

[dennistueartismyhero]

wouldn't it be great if Platini had to hand the trophy over to Vinny through gritted teeth

 

[Scrabster Six]

Hope you are well and busy as always. May I just convey to you that after attending Moscow there were no security or safety issues suffered as far as I know from those attending. I attended mainly because of my lack of faith in UEFA as an organisation respecting any of the receipts submitted and as I am not in the situation of just throwing money down the drain.

I respect Manchester Citys decision to hold the buffet at the ground but if I can draw a comparison to attending Everton fans who recently went to Krasnodar in Russia (seeing a game) and then receiving free tickets for the Lille game played last night. My question would be which of these would have been of more utility to those fans? I think the latter.

I do feel that Manchester City as an organisation have missed a public relations coup here but again this is open to debate as the current tendency seems to be to go in a different direction that the fans enjoyed under Garry Cook. I would like to think otherwise but UEFA as an organisation is very self explanatory and the revenue maximisation seems to be alienating the fans I would imagine it doesn't want to alienate but we seem to be following the Manchester United model.

Once again I will always respect Manchester City as a football club and they will always have my support whether attending or none attending.

 

[Danny Hoekman]

look, this was a con from start to finish. uefa are as corrupt as fuck and wouldn't dare react to the cska fans being allowed in. if just one sponsor took along one fan the floodgates would open for others to follow. too much money at risk to argue with them.

we don't know what our club were told as to what sanctions we would face had we overlooked a few fans getting in but going off previous we would get hammered. remember us getting fined far more for taking to the pitch late than any side making flares or racial comments. or the ffp fine being distributed amongst our rivals, it is as clear as day that we are being targeted and on this occasion we were right to tow the uefa line. I trust our owners to take a rain check and one day we will have our day in the sun. we'll hurt uefa one day mark my words.

I agree with your general point, except I don't see how City were at risk of any sanctions unless they sent a security team over to weed out undercover blues in the ground. If UEFA cared about a few fans finding a way into the ground as "sponsors" or "journalists" - which they have since clearly shown they don't - then this would be CSKAs responsibility. City did not encourage fans to travel and were not in charge of entry points to the ground. The more I think about it the more it smells like a bullshit excuse for their unnecessary actions to me. Had any of us started bringing attention to ourselves inside the ground then that would have been a different issue, but we were all clearly going to lie low and what they did leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, there are some proper cunts working at City now.

 

[warpig]

look, this was a con from start to finish. uefa are as corrupt as fuck and wouldn't dare react to the cska fans being allowed in. if just one sponsor took along one fan the floodgates would open for others to follow. too much money at risk to argue with them.

we don't know what our club were told as to what sanctions we would face had we overlooked a few fans getting in but going off previous we would get hammered. remember us getting fined far more for taking to the pitch late than any side making flares or racial comments. or the ffp fine being distributed amongst our rivals, it is as clear as day that we are being targeted and on this occasion we were right to tow the uefa line. I trust our owners to take a rain check and one day we will have our day in the sun. we'll hurt uefa one day mark my words.

I agree with your general point, except I don't see how City were at risk of any sanctions unless they sent a security team over to weed out undercover blues in the ground. If UEFA cared about a few fans finding a way into the ground as "sponsors" or "journalists" - which they have since clearly shown they don't - then this would be CSKAs responsibility. City did not encourage fans to travel and were not in charge of entry points to the ground. The more I think about it the more it smells like a bullshit excuse for their unnecessary actions to me. Had any of us started bringing attention to ourselves inside the ground then that would have been a different issue, but we were all clearly going to lie low and what they did leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

I agree 100% with you mate. The responsibility to police the ground surely lies solely with cska.

To me It all snacks of a load of jobsworths seeking desperately to prove they had an important job to carry out, when in reality they didn't. They probably got a few back slaps when they returned to the uk on a Job well done.

Thing is, What ever happened to a bit of common sense , a quiet word or a bit of discretion? Cska obviously weren't that bothered otherwise they surely would have found them out first. Pathetic .

there does now seem to be a clear shift in attitude between the club and the fans. I've said it before and I'll say it again, what's happening to is now as a club is what happened to united 15 years ago. Things are only going to get worse. Get used to it people.

 

[KingBilly]

Anybody got a refund yet? It might be a small amount of money to the cub or uefa,but it is a lot of hard earned cash for some.A total disgrace if you ask me

 

[Bill]

Anybody got a refund yet? It might be a small amount of money to the cub or uefa,but it is a lot of hard earned cash for some.A total disgrace if you ask me

not a sniff.
i'd better get something back cos i overspent over there, i spent a grand on brass alone.

 

[Originals]

Anybody got a refund yet? It might be a small amount of money to the cub or uefa,but it is a lot of hard earned cash for some.A total disgrace if you ask me

not a sniff.
i'd better get something back cos i overspent over there, i spent a grand on brass alone.

I emailed the person who sent the email about the refunds and the free night at city asking about a refund. I asked her If the club would step up as Uefa clearly have said no we aint getting a refund. I havent had a reply yet. I went over so I am obviously not expecting a refund but the email to me sounded like a refund would happen so the club basically persuaded people not to go and they will have lost money.

Good bit of PR for the club if they came out and said stick UEFAs money we will refund the fans just like Bayern had.

 

[Corky]

Hope you are well and busy as always. May I just convey to you that after attending Moscow there were no security or safety issues suffered as far as I know from those attending. I attended mainly because of my lack of faith in UEFA as an organisation respecting any of the receipts submitted and as I am not in the situation of just throwing money down the drain.

I respect Manchester Citys decision to hold the buffet at the ground but if I can draw a comparison to attending Everton fans who recently went to Krasnodar in Russia (seeing a game) and then receiving free tickets for the Lille game played last night. My question would be which of these would have been of more utility to those fans? I think the latter.

I do feel that Manchester City as an organisation have missed a public relations coup here but again this is open to debate as the current tendency seems to be to go in a different direction that the fans enjoyed under Garry Cook. I would like to think otherwise but UEFA as an organisation is very self explanatory and the revenue maximisation seems to be alienating the fans I would imagine it doesn't want to alienate but we seem to be following the Manchester United model.

Once again I will always respect Manchester City as a football club and they will always have my support whether attending or none attending.

I forgot we all got refunds when the Pompey away game was called off. At least they are attempting this time.

 

[Eccles Blue]

I didn't say all, I said a number of officials at City. As someone else has said, do we know they were City officials or were they GMP who went over?

I have not long ago got back on the same flight as de niro, and I would just like to clarify this point as a few have questioned who was involved.

When we got chucked out of the ground it was by a group comprising of the head of security for MCFC, two MCFC stewards, and two plain clothes GMP officers. The person who spotted me personally was one of our stewards who had seen me at the youth game earlier in the day but they were all working together. Before they threw me out I was given a lecture by the head of security about the possible implications for City of UEFA sanctions if we were seen inside the ground with our colours. He immediately acknowledged I wasn't wearing any colours, but they were in no mood to turn a blind eye. I was escorted out of the stadium by them without any CSKA official or police knowing I was ever inside.

I can't speak for the others who got inside and were also thrown out - we all got in by different methods - but as I understand it similar happened to them. By the way, if the lads who organised the minibus back from Khimki to the sports bar and then into Moscow read this - thanks, I owe you one.

I apologise unreservedly for 'doubting' any posts about it being City's own officials & join those who have complained about the heavy handed attitude of said officials.


Prestwich Blue, I totally agree about the Points of Blue withdrawal & could never understand why that happened. Plus a lot of the other points you made. So I also apologise to you as well.

Best wishes
EB