English players

LongsightM13 said:
Barcon said:
LongsightM13 said:
Not only association trained but club trained. He came from out academy and is way, way better than Jovetic.
He ticks more than one box for us, especially post FFP.
As for the goon who accused me of being a rag, all I can do is shake my head, compare life stories and remind myself why I haven't bothered coming on here for a couple of years.
See y'all in 2017.
Maybe when Mangala (now 24. 20 fucking 4!!!) will still be a flat footed, square on, clumsy, positionally clueless of a centre half. But people still talk about his 'potentail' like Sol Campbell.
He is 24, not 14.
Look how Lukaku (younger) stood him up, got him square on and then absolutely raped him.
If he hasn't learned these basics of defending, he never will.
We have pissed our money away. You know it, I know it. Only the Txixi fanboys deny it
Though even in five years time some on here will be calling him a 'young player who needs time to adapt'

Not sure what the rant is all about mate. Just asking what are the off field problems that he could solve?
Our quota issues with association and especially club trained players. ill only be worse when Milner goes.
Sturridge wold help us in this respect, on two counts.
Boyata wouldn't get in Blackburn's team but is in our squad against Barcelona, purely down to HG numbers.

Fair enough mate but I wouldn't consider that to be an off field problem.
Plus, how much do you think the dippers would try bending us over for him? (although I guess we could always tap him up).
 
LongsightM13 said:
kun said:
LongsightM13 said:
Probably not a popular opinion on here but Sturridge would solve many of our problems on and off the field.
And anyone suggesting Fernando is anywhere near as good a player as Saints' Schneiderlin is mentally ill. Fernando is a tall Nigel DeJong, without the passing ability. A travesty of a footballer.
16m pissed away on a fella nobody else wanted.
Just like Mangala, a piss-poor footballer nobody else was interested in, yet we still overpaid.
A terrible, unforgivable waste of money in the post FFP climate.
This may be one of the worst things I have ever read.
"Sturridge would solve many of our problems on and off the field."
What problems off the field?
How would Sturridge solve off the field problems anyway?
And, in fact, how would he solve on the field problems from the treatment table?

"Fernando is a tall Nigel De Jong, without the passing ability. A travesty of a footballer."
You have it the wrong way round there mate. De Jong was just a short Fernando without the passing ability.

"16m pissed away on a fella nobody else wanted."
Wrong on 2 fronts:
1. He was £12m
2. I. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ady-sign-pre-contract-agreement-AC-Milan.html
II. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-transfer-news-david-3066088
III. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...ound-and-could-join-one-of-Blues-title-rivals
VI. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ntus-bid-Fernando-Reges-Liverpool-target.html

"Just like Mangala, a piss-poor footballer nobody else was interested in, yet we still overpaid."
Wrong on 2 fronts, again:
1. He's clearly not piss-poor, just watch his debut vs Chelsea.
2. I. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...ester-city-transfers-eliaquim-mangala-3142579
II. http://www.tribalfootball.com/artic...angala-monacos-kondogbia-4021884#.VL79OUesVK0
III. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...elona-chase-eliaquim-mangala-transfer-3181173
VI. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...star-couldn-t-near-France-World-Cup-side.html
V. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ivals-Manchester-United-Chelsea-involved.html
Mangala was brilliant against Chelsea. How many good games has he had since? 1 maybe 2?
You can quote stats all you want, they are NOT footballers. Playing sideways 10-yard passes will always make your stats look good. Making basic goal-costing errors may not show up on heat maps or whatever the modern football fan takes as gospel, but people who've watched the game for 40 years knows a fuck-up when they see one
I didn't quote any stats
 
PS anyone who believes newspaper transfer stories is insane.
I do know for a fact that 99% are genuinely, absolutely made up, invented by agents on a quid pro quo basis, or stolen from overseas news outlets and reported as fact.
A star football reporter on a national UK newspaper definitely, I know for a fact just makes up mental rumours in a pathetic attempt to disrupt rivals of the team he openly supports (His name may or may not rhyme with Ron Bross).
So quote whatever bullshit you want. No other club in Europe was willing to pay probably more than £20m for Mangala. We got stung.
Makes you wonder whether it was a 'down payment' with certain Portugese agents, with an eye to future deals.
Not unlike themm to be involved in such a thing, Bebe money laundering etc
 
LongsightM13 said:
PS anyone who believes newspaper transfer stories is insane.
I do know for a fact that 99% are genuinely, absolutely made up, invented by agents on a quid pro quo basis, or stolen from overseas news outlets and reported as fact.
A star football reporter on a national UK newspaper definitely, I know for a fact just makes up mental rumours in a pathetic attempt to disrupt rivals of the team he openly supports (His name may or may not rhyme with Ron Bross).
So quote whatever bullshit you want. No other club in Europe was willing to pay probably more than £20m for Mangala. We got stung.
Makes you wonder whether it was a 'down payment' with certain Portugese agents, with an eye to future deals.
Not unlike themm to be involved in such a thing, Bebe money laundering etc

All this you say about newspaperstories ... this is all new to me. I never expected this. My God, you opend up a new world to me.
You seem to be ITK so maybe you could come on here every day and inform us? It'll save us time (some buying a newspaper even money) and we get stories that are a 100% correct. Can you start today? Please?
 
We should promote from within.

There's likely to be some wriggle room to do this for next season, what better way to announce the Academy and the likes of Barker, Fofarna, Ambrose, Lopes, Pozo, the two young full backs, Evans etc would see a chance at making it and who knows, we could have a proper Jizzjazz type player who really would be world class.......
 
id be tempted to go for Shawcross think him and Kompany could form a big partnership. like he had with Lescott
 
There were many debates and discussions around the issue "the best normal/standard rules players" at Russian speaking cossacks forums, and Ive never noticed the one in English. I wonder what English speaking players think about that. Go ahead and well have ranking of the players according to your votes .
 

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