Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements {merged}

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Ric said:
Let's keep it on topic. This isn't a thread about Mancini.

Personally I'd love to see us get Klopp, but not convinced it will happen.

Klopp would bridge the gap between the fans and the team and would probably improve the atmosphere within the stadium by virtue of his charismatic personality.

On thing you notice in German football is the connection between the fans and the team. We have completely lost that this year. Pellers by virtue of his demeanour did not act as a conduit or as a cheerleader on the sidelines to motivate the fans or the players. Most fans like to see fire and passion displayed by the manager, and react to this and similarly I think a lot of the players would like to see more engagement with the players during the course of the game.
 
What do we know about his management style? Is he likely to give some of our preciousses a long overdue boot up the arse?
 
waspish said:
Ric said:
Let's keep it on topic. This isn't a thread about Mancini.

Personally I'd love to see us get Klopp, but not convinced it will happen.

agree..

I also think if we finish strongly Pellegrini will start next season as our manager..


I believe he's already been told that the club are activating the 2 year break clause in his contract.
 
franksinatra said:
Ric said:
Let's keep it on topic. This isn't a thread about Mancini.

Personally I'd love to see us get Klopp, but not convinced it will happen.

Klopp would bridge the gap between the fans and the team and would probably improve the atmosphere within the stadium by virtue of his charismatic personality.

On thing you notice in German football is the connection between the fans and the team. We have completely lost that this year. Pellers by virtue of his demeanour did not act as a conduit or as a cheerleader on the sidelines to motivate the fans or the players. Most fans like to see fire and passion displayed by the manager, and react to this and similarly I think a lot of the players would like to see more engagement with the players during the course of the game.

Don't get me wrong, I think he'd be the perfect fit for us right now. I just haven't seen or heard any compelling evidence yet that it will happen.
 
waspish said:
Ric said:
Let's keep it on topic. This isn't a thread about Mancini.

Personally I'd love to see us get Klopp, but not convinced it will happen.

agree..

I also think if we finish strongly Pellegrini will start next season as our manager..

I wrote a few weeks ago that if Pellegrini managed to get 18 points from the last 24 that would constitute a strong finish, given 2015 so far, and he probably deserved another season. Well we lost the first two so he now needs to win all six as far as I am concerned. We can't keep shifting the sticks. What next, if we finish the last 3 games strongly he deserves....
 
Ric said:
franksinatra said:
Ric said:
Let's keep it on topic. This isn't a thread about Mancini.

Personally I'd love to see us get Klopp, but not convinced it will happen.

Klopp would bridge the gap between the fans and the team and would probably improve the atmosphere within the stadium by virtue of his charismatic personality.

On thing you notice in German football is the connection between the fans and the team. We have completely lost that this year. Pellers by virtue of his demeanour did not act as a conduit or as a cheerleader on the sidelines to motivate the fans or the players. Most fans like to see fire and passion displayed by the manager, and react to this and similarly I think a lot of the players would like to see more engagement with the players during the course of the game.

Don't get me wrong, I think he'd be the perfect fit for us right now. I just haven't seen or heard any compelling evidence yet that it will happen.

No me neither sadly. I do find newspaper articles suggesting this manager or that manager will not be considered because he would not fit in within City's structure as rather troubling. I hope there is no truth in this and the likes of Simeone/Klopp are not ruled out.
 
KnaresboroughBlue said:
leech said:
KnaresboroughBlue said:
As opposed to winning the league by beating a Liverpool that finished miles behind us the previous season, a Chelsea team without a competent striker, united in turmoil with Moyes etc etc etc. You could go on forever like this.

I respect both for their achievements but as Mancini's time was up, so probably is Pellegrini's and we'll have a new manager to argue over.
I think the difference is Mancini lost the title by a distance to a team where Cleverley and Welbeck were regular starters; a far cry from the Costa/Fabregas/Courtois/etc led team we have to compete against now. Moreover though I don't think Pellegrini has ever managed to equal Mancini's achievements of finishing behind the likes of Napoli and Ajax in Champions League groups yet.

We're behind a team described by Neville as being a pub team with the likes of Smalling and Jones. Out of both cups at home to a side a division below us and an understrength Newcastle.

We can go round in circles with the pointless crap or just move on and, as Ducado said, look to the future.

Anyway I'm looking forward to the reign of Klopp (hopefully). It would be nice if he (or whoever comes in) was a manager that could unite us all.

We were all united when we won the league last season, stop trying to make this a divisive issue, because it's not, we just want to be as good as we can be whoever manages us, I don't have any attachment to any manager I support City and whoever is the manager at the time
 
Ducado said:
KnaresboroughBlue said:
leech said:
I think the difference is Mancini lost the title by a distance to a team where Cleverley and Welbeck were regular starters; a far cry from the Costa/Fabregas/Courtois/etc led team we have to compete against now. Moreover though I don't think Pellegrini has ever managed to equal Mancini's achievements of finishing behind the likes of Napoli and Ajax in Champions League groups yet.

We're behind a team described by Neville as being a pub team with the likes of Smalling and Jones. Out of both cups at home to a side a division below us and an understrength Newcastle.

We can go round in circles with the pointless crap or just move on and, as Ducado said, look to the future.

Anyway I'm looking forward to the reign of Klopp (hopefully). It would be nice if he (or whoever comes in) was a manager that could unite us all.

We were all united when we won the league last season, stop trying to make this a divisive issue, because it's not, we just want to be as good as we can be whoever manages us, I don't have any attachment to any manager I support City and whoever is the manager at the time

Well it seems to me that there was a pro/anti Mancini debate that went on for a couple of years and similar with Pellegrini. All I was saying is that I hope that the next manager would be a manager that would go down well with all.
 
Manchester City have already met Jurgen Klopp to assess him for the manager’s job – but it was back in 2013 when they were seeking a replacement for Roberto Mancini.

Txiki Begiristain, City’s director of football met the Borussia Dortmund manager and concluded that he was not the right fit for City – and the club went on to appoint Manuel Pellegrini.

Begiristain’s meeting and rejection of Klopp back in 2013 adds weight to the growing evidence that Klopp will not get the Manchester City job even though the Borussia Dortmund manager quit this week, fuelling a wave of speculation about which Premier League clubs might want to appoint him this summer.

Pellegrini’s position is clearly vulnerable given City’s failures this year on all fronts – in the Champions League, which was the principal target, the Premier League and the domestic cups.

However, there is an insistence at the club that it should be not be automatically assumed that Pellegrini will be dismissed as, unlike when Mancini went, the club is running smoothly off the pitch without the internal tensions and disagreements which characterised Mancini’s last days.

There will be the usual end-of-season review of the manager’s performance but this would take place every season, whatever success or not had been achieved.

Pellegrini will clearly have to answer difficult questions about the team’s under performance, especially as they have sunk to fourth place and run the risk of being overhauled by Liverpool for the Champions League.

However, Begiristain would also expect to answer questions about the recruitment of players last summer such as Eliaquim Mangala for £35million and Fernando for £13m, neither of whom has made an impact.

On the plus side for Pellegrini, his style of play is seen as compatible with the type of club Begiristain and his colleague, chief executive Ferran Soriano, are attempting to create.

Both are former executives at Barcelona, where possession football and a strong academy were integral to the Catalan club and are now central to their vision City.

Klopp’s counter attacking football does not fit their philosophy and there was also a sense that his exuberant personality would not be the type of manager for which City were looking in 2013.

However, despite the club’s reassurances about Pellegrini, it is clear that his position will be under threat if not this summer then certainly next year, when Pep Guardiola’s three-year deal with Bayern runs out.

If City do decide to make the change this summer, Rafa Benitez will be avaible when he leaves Napoli, where is challenging for a Champions League place, the Europa League and the Coppa Italia, and would be a strong candidate.

But Guardiola clearly remains the favourite to take over when he has finished at Bayern. Begiristain was central in Guardiola’s appointment to Barcelona in 2008, a move which was considered a huge risk at the time but which paid extraordinary dividends as Barca won two Champions League trophies, three La Liga titles and the Copa del Rey twice under Guardiola.

Begiristain’s faith in Guardiola when his only previous experience was with the Barcelona B team is why Patrick Vieira, City’s academy manager, has become a contender to take over should Pellegrini leave.

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