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    City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

    Void in English law means never existed. https://www.vocabulaw.co.uk/terms/void/
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    City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

    I'm having a go at answering the question, "Why do City say the Rules are void?" Because that's what the law says. If the Rules are unlawful (for whatever reason) they are prohibited rules and any agreement, or decision of an association, including the prohibited Rules is thus void...
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    City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

    Steady on, that's almost justifying the Rags' deal with Chrysler!
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    City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

    Even that minimises the problem for the PL. The rules are currently unlawful, therefore, say City, void, as in never existed. (See the effect of the Supreme Court saying Johnson's proroguing Parliament was unlawful meant the session continued.) Can the PL now come up with rules that get the...
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    City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

    And the phrase "red cartel" is now in everyone's head. Big win. Will enough clubs support any new rules if the first question is, "Would we spend millions defending in court these rules designed to help the red cartel?"?
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    City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

    Not just the amendments. The rules themselves are unlawful.
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    City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

    Does he explain why City think the APT rules are now void?
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    City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

    I did go back. This bit of the article is simply wrong: "Secondly, it found that a number of changes made to the APT rules in February were in breach of competition law. These changes were highly technical. In essence, amendments in the rules would make it more difficult for a club to meet the...
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    City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

    I can't be bothered going back to the article. But does it say "The Tribunal said that both the original rules and the amended rules are unlawful"? (Or anything that clear?)
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    City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

    It's not exactly a forensic analysis, is it? City said this, the PL said that.
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    City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

    Thanks. Do we assume that's the whole of the City letter quoted?
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    The Conservative Party

    Is that the Corrupt Bullshit Artist that unlawfully passed a planning consent for a Tory donor? Or the Corrupt Bullshit Artist that hacked an opposition MP's computer?
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    City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

    Did someone post the City letter to clubs? I can't find it. The one that says "give us a call if you want it explaining..."
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    City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

    The article didn't make that connection. It was couched as "City argued the rules were unlawful" but "The PL disagreed". The Tribunal say the Rules are unlawful. As an article purporting to explain that, it failed.
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    City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

    Because it says "The tribunal found these changes constituted a breach of competition law" but does not say that that is why the Tribunal said the Rules are unlawful.
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    City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

    Does this explain why all the Rules are void? The judgment says the Rules and the Amended Rules are "in breach of sections 2 and 18 of the Competition Act 1998" Section 2 of the Act: Agreements etc. preventing, restricting or distorting competition. (1)Subject to section 3, agreements between...
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    City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

    But then wouldn't it have said, "Rule number X is unlawful"? No matter whether it's an easy fix or not, as it stands the Rules are unlawful (so City say they are all null and void until the unfair bits are fixed). That's my understanding / best guess.
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    City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

    Is it? How do City claim the judgement mean the Rules are null and void if "the Rules are unlawful" just means the individual Rules on which the Panel said City succeeded. The phraseology "for no other reason" doesn't on the face of it seem to qualify the ruling that the Rules (as a whole) are...
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    City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

    Not reading the last hundred posts, but I was trying to work out why City say the Rules are null and void (not a phrase in the judgment). The overall conclusions (592-602) list the challenges where City succeeded and those ("all others") that failed, which sounds like they just have to tinker...

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