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A better guide is the exchange. Bookies typically follow those prices and take their profit by adjusting the odds in relation to that. Weight of money (albeit only 134k on this market at the moment) gives a better indication of probability (see wisdom of crowds) so betfair has City's win...

a significant drift in City's odds this morning at Betfair.

I've done some research for you-Bradley started 10 games. Unless you mean Quansah and Kelleher, you've imagined it.

go and do some research-it didn't happen.

That didn't happen.

Looks like a back 4 of who is the fittest

no surprising omissions from EDS-Wilson-Esbrand starts left back, presumably trying to build up fitness. O'Reilly. Simpson-Pusey and Wright not involved-seemingly with the first team.

Last couple of years of retirement really tried to improve my fitness: had got to 62k a week on my concept 2 with a 80/20 split of long steady rows and some interval training. Managed to get ill on holiday -first proper week back 50k on rower and 60k on bike erg (spontaneous buy because I felt...

EDS play this evening so we will get an idea.

Played much better because his first touch was more assured. Looks an immense prospect.

He played well until fatigue set in-there was one turn on the half way line that was sublime.

wilson not yet fully fit though is he?

McAtee played well first half-shattered after an hour hobbling around with cramp.

He was struggling the entire second half

City drifting again-sounds like curly watts starts

I mentioned earlier city’s odds had shortened into 2.66-they have again drifted to 2.92 -similar to how big they were yesterday

Strong bench. Braithwaite came on last night for EDS-guess that makes his participation unlikely?

Interestingly City's odds at the exchange which began at 2.20 to win, drifted all the way out to 2.94 ish-and now slowly back into 2.66. That suggests a reasonably strong team-so I fully expect Ortega, Stones, Ake, Gundogan, Foden, Nunes and even Savio and Lewis to play some part-plus McAtee...

Another thread that sadly needs locking. This is a live prosecution and we all tread a fine line between comment and contempt. The likes of Jenrick and Farage know this too-but are delighted to seize an opportunity to enrage their base. The tedious attempts to justify violence and thuggery...

Who was locked up for telling the truth? That sounds awful…