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    The Album Review Club - Week #146 - (page 1935) - Ocean Rain - Echo and the Bunnymen

    Happy National Album Day folks ! (apparently)
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    The Labour Government

    Confirmation bias is hard to overcome for us all. It requires we're open to other ideas and that we listen hard. It's probably easier to do in 1-2-1 conversations and dialogue because that cuts out the noise. So pretty much the opposite of what we use to discuss politics these days!
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    The Album Review Club - Week #146 - (page 1935) - Ocean Rain - Echo and the Bunnymen

    Yeah but can they create an album about a man losing all his savings down the back of a TV eh? I'll take as a given your reply that's this is yet another point in Arnerica's favour - saves you having to type it out ;-)
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    The Album Review Club - Week #146 - (page 1935) - Ocean Rain - Echo and the Bunnymen

    I'm not enamoured of much of the vocals on the pick but the later stuff I've listened to he seems to have found his voice both figuratively and literally.
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    Drinking in the stands to be trialled in the second tier of women's football

    Drinks industry crapping itself about the decline in drinking in the younger population, though the jury is still out on what is really driving this. Either way, once the current generations of over 50's have drunk themselves to death it's downhill all the way unless they can reverse the trend...
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    The Labour Government

    No it's not any single government's fault more a succession of policy decisions and societal changes that have led us to where we are today. Whether or not it's the governments fault or not I take an interventionist view that says if government can help it should especially for the kids whose...
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    The Album Review Club - Week #146 - (page 1935) - Ocean Rain - Echo and the Bunnymen

    I think I'm a misanthrope. I only need to hear that opening Chas & Dave-esque piano and I can't be doing with it and I'd be filing Wake Up Boo somewhere too but not in the same place as you. As a '95 release this album sits squarely in my 'lost' years that I alluded to in my last pick. If I...
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    The Labour Government

    I've been following this little food discussion and my thought was I don't have any idea who here is or isn't talking from a position of knowledge. By which I mean with an actual lived or at least observed understanding of what it's like to be for instance a single parent of three kids. This...
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    US Politics Thread

    I'm not saying there aren't other issues in play I was merely saying the remedy Isn't simply better education. You have to do something to address the systematic flow of misinformation, in fact I suspect our points are intersecting as the funding to deliver that constant flow has to come from...
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    The Labour Government

    That's correct Labour did do that, or at least a third sounds about right, would have been more but was reduced after the unions got involved I think. This was part of Labour's plan to reeingineer Remploy but I don't think the strategy was to close them all or to outsource the'problem'. It was...
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    US Politics Thread

    But it's not that simple, nueroscience shows us that bad actors can manipulate even educated people by lying consistently and persistently. A truth or a possibility/hypothesis are not the same as a lie, it's the insistence on passing off lies as a valid 'viewpoint' that is fucking up public...
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    The Labour Government

    Not strictly true, the REMPLOY owned factories were shut down thereby making thousands of disabled people redundant but the rest of the business was sold to an American company. Given at the time that we didn't seem to give a shit about flogging off even our strategic infrastructure to enrich...
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    Donald Trump

    I tend look at it a bit differently. I'm not sure any of us are truly rational. There's more than 100 cognitive biases that humans display (notwithstanding arguments about whether some have a rationality to them). Neuroscience is only beginning to scratch the surface on what's happening but they...
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    The Labour Government

    Yep all they need to do is point to the trial data etc. if they've modelled this and the associated costs and benefits correctly then I'm all for it. Years ago I employed someone with significant mental health issues as part of their recovery. It wasn't a simple process to make it work and it...
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    City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

    Make sure they all stay long enough for us to get the rags in the cup and inflict a historic record defeat on a top flight team by a non league team that will sit in the record books forever. Then they can move on, their work done. Actually for that to work out the rags have to avoid getting...
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    Donald Trump

    I think this is the part where if he's elected in Nov, the constitution will have been seen to fail the stress test he has imposed on it. Sometimes the wheels of justice do roll slowly but in this case its the politicsed nature of the judicial system that is screwing things over. I'm not...
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    The Album Review Club - Week #146 - (page 1935) - Ocean Rain - Echo and the Bunnymen

    So this pick is already a good example of why I pretty much always get something out of this thread. I've put this on for my first listen and though there's nothing as remotely annoying as Alright I still wasn't feeling it, partly because of my whole Britpop/mid 90s awol thing, and partly for...
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    The Album Review Club - Week #146 - (page 1935) - Ocean Rain - Echo and the Bunnymen

    One of the best write ups we've had. I took against Supergrass solely on the basis of Alright, a song I really can't stand. Over the years people have said to me give them a go they're really good and you'll like them. I've always said yeah ok I'll get round to it at some point. Well now some...
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    Lionel Messi

    Maybe it's for the best. I'm not sure if after the initial shock and awe wore off with the opposition it might not have become pretty hard work for him. The press would have had an absolute field day with even the slightest issues. At least this way we just imagine a happy version of what might...
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    Sara Sharif

    Yep there's no way the school will have ignored this. I assume the reason for her being pulled out of school was because they had raised the alarm. Schools are increasingly being used as de facto front line social workers as actual social services are dying on their arse through a mixture of...

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