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does it become obvious later on in the film , seems daft to me at the moment

finally got round to watching avatar(only half way through) visually stunning but one thing is bugging me and i dont know if i've missed something or not so when sully is in the tank and is being the avatar i get that all well and good but what happens when hes out of the tank especially whilst...

fair point but those that do like philo and josephus paint a very different picture of how he is described in the new testament he was eventually recalled to rome around ad 36 after another slaughter of pilgrims

always get this retort where's the disrespect? its a discussion forum people make claims we agree or disagree its a mainly christian based discussion so that's where the focus lies there is the occasional koran based chat but not that much for what its worth my opinion its all not true but that...

i'm not sure what your point is there were hundreds if not thousands of men named jesus in the first century and specifically between the pertinent dates upto 33ad so what! the actual question is apart from what's contained in the new testament is there any other evidence to support it?

jesus was a common name back in the first century so which one are we on about?? and as far as i'm aware no roman census records the jesus we are talking about, no surviving one that is what i was on about is if in fact this jesus is just some herbert the romans executed without any pomp and...

Pilate is well known to be a very nasty governor who would of been nothing like the lily livered version in the bible If memory serves me correctly he was removed from his post and sent back to Rome as he was getting out of hand But will have to check my facts

So its someone who started a rabble and got executed no you wouldn’t expect records of that But that gives you a dilemma The bible is now a load of made up pony If that’s the case You can’t have it both ways mate

Tacitus was born around 56 ad so minimum ad 76 before writing anything annals is second century so could quite easily be aware of at least marks gospel(70/73ad) Pliny is similar They are both not primary sources So where would they get their information from

Don’t be silly

But you can’t definitively say that it wasn’t made up from the get go You can have as many written pieces as you want that just doesn’t make it true

But you forget that there are loads of surviving texts from the first century the romans were very diligent in that respect And not one mention of a jesus The 4 you mention cannot be eyewitnesses So we are dealing with at best second hand information Josephus at around 93ad we are two...

Each version of Jesus are totally different as well

Apologies I dip in and out of this thread periodically so forgive me for thinking 4 independent sources are the 4 gospels What did you mean then?

Mate they are not independent Luke and Matthew are almost certainly copied from mark as is john Not sure which one without a bit of research but one corrects marks mistakes to make look better

Had this argument before and got shouted down because Bart ehrman says so But apart from Josephus which is scant at best There is absolutely no corroboration to the anonymous written decades after gospels Anywhere that Jesus was an actual real person let alone be a deity

Real as in just another man living at that time Or the son of god as described in the bible

She is a former IT manager So she is always my go to

made no assumptions mate i asked why they are in the house of lords and for what reason? 24 is of course a small proportion but there is a chance for influence which in my eyes is 24 too many glad you had unimpacted chippy tea sounds good i had a unimpacted lamb dinner whilst watching firmino...

i guess which side of the fence you are on why for instance are there 24 Anglican bishops in the house of lords for no good reason i can think of who can then influence the law making process with their undoubted bias according to the nss less than 2% of people are regular Anglican service...