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Is that right Stefan? I assumed we could do a deal at any value but the PL rules could make us put through an accounting adjustment purely for FFP purposes! If this is not the case it makes it even more ridiculous that shareholder loans below market value interest were not addressed in ATP...

Exactly. Stefan and those that agree with him can consider an organisation to have won at an independent tribunal where it has been found that they have abused their dominant position by implementing rules that are unlawful, unfair and unreasonable. The rest of us are allowed a different view.

6 Villa

As it is clear that the PL brought in unlawful rules deliberately to stop Newcastle progressing, why are NUFC not putting in a claim for compensation?

As Etihad are now inextricably linked with City it would be difficult for them to retain credibility through sponsorship of any other PL club. Therefore the value to them of continuation of the City deal is more than any value they would get from ditching City and sponsoring Arsenal for example...

I don’t care what Stefan says, this is a loss for City!

If somebody does something unlawful do the police / law courts need to get involved in order for justice to be done?

It’s beginning to look inevitable that an independent regulator is required.

So did we win or not?

I liked it when somebody suggested producing evidence and it was duly produced only to be ignored / rubbished / requested for a second time. Bishop might not be funny but this place is hilarious at times.

Roger Palmer Ham

You make a very good point and whilst I agree with you, we are both probably wrong!

Alan Ball managed a 1-0 win at home to Villa once but that was all forgotten at Stoke the following season after relegation!

Exactly. They are chancers thrashing about on behalf of those who put them in their now untenable position!

Just another example of them abusing their position of dominance!

Lord Pannik’s opening line on the 115!

He’s lost it. I knew this day would come :)

Stefan has been relegated and Arsenal have been stripped of a couple of 2nd place finishes and a Charity shield!

Give it up mate. You can’t reason with cheats.

He probably considers this a win :)