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They put 3 past Juve the last time they played them.

Extra sick?

Irony

When he jumped off the wardrobe.

Lovely pass to put DeBruyne away down the right which led to our third and a lovely assist for Sterling, hit and miss first half but he's always got that moment of magic in him.

This time last season, he was playing brilliantly, then picked up his usual muscle injury and struggled to refind his form.

Yep, look at Aguero's miss in the first half when Foden laid it on a plate for him for example. Even the very best miss easy ones.

Agreed, it's a good question though.

Because the VAR ref is reluctant to undermine their colleague, the ref can then hide behind the VAR decision. The use of the monitors means the decision is back on them, I'm convinced if Taylor looks at that Zaha push again himself he gives the pen as he would be too embarrassed not to.

You're missing my point, I prefer not to see things from a biased perspective but I accept I do, in your efforts to be objective you over compensate, a la Niall Quinn.

Yep, the biggest failing is lack of pitchside monitors. I know it slows the game but it's far better than the current situation where the VAR ref is reluctant to undermine their colleague.

It was obvious to me in real time, I perhaps had a more favourable view than the ref with the camera angle. Seriously though mate, it's a stonewall penalty that even the most ardent Liverpool and United fans I talk football with are calling a definite pen and believe me they would normally argue...

It's a clusterfuck, no doubt.

You bend so much to be appear balanced and unbiased that you end up looking daft.

So you believe any subjective decision shouldn't go to VAR? The push on DeBruyne for example should not go to VAR?

If it goes to VAR the correct decision should be given, foul, no goal. Question for me is should it have gone to VAR?

38 PL starts

Sorry if already covered, was the DeBruyne penalty shout discussed on Match of the Day?

Guess you know it's true...