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Reckon the fact I said that Heysel was the peak of it makes it our own fault but there you go.

I’ve never heard of him either. There’s some interesting stuff in there but largely the tone and some of the assertions are as juvenile as it gets. Fuck knows how he parlays with the Qatari reps.

As has been said above, he’d have took the piss big time in the modern game with its protection. So much outrageous ability & one of the great football talismans. I liken him to Jack Nicklaus; they ruled all before them in their pomp but if they’d have had modern advantages, nobody would ever...

That’s a great summary and post there, mate, well in.

I agree with all that. My point was that Heysel was what tipped UEFA over the edge in terms of a blanket ban. What had gone before was bad but this was another level.

We went to the 3-2 with the Czechs and Russia at Anfield, great game. We signed Berger not long afterwards and United signed Poborsky. Up there with 90 & 06 as England’s best chance to win another major trophy, but fell short. Again.

I said one of the biggest, not the biggest for that reason.

Not at all. By my reckoning, you’re going to have one of the biggest seasons of your lives so to come on and gloat would be pretty pointless. I think you’ll win the CL once it’s resumed. Said to a City lad I know that you’d beat Real home and away and I’m halfway there already. What I’m getting...

Aye, I think the BTN thread may be more sedate. Thanks for being civil though, I can feel the hostility ramping right up...haha!

Again, I totally agree. To my mind, they shouldn’t start until 2021 at least given who governs this country. But money & legal challenges talk; the sheer wealth of the PL and all that comes with it means they don’t give two fucks about anything other than keeping the gravy train flowing. That’s...

As I’ve said, I’ve lost two people through the virus and people unashamedly breaking the lockdown to celebrate en masse over football deserve everything they get. It’s not rocket science, some things are more important than this.

Thanks, Ric, I really didn’t want to get into that discussion, this issue isn’t the place for scoring points. Liverpool & Everton, furlough decisions aside, have done really well. I’m not sure that the fan base will ever forget the furlough issue, but with the furlough and the Liverpool...

Of course I would! What a silly thing to say! I’ve waited thirty years to see us win the league again and if that means I can’t celebrate at the ground as I normally would then so be it. Far more important things happening now.

Oh, there’ll be loads of selfish ****s who do that. Loads and loads. Wouldn’t turn a hair if any of them were infected, deserve everything they get.

You’ve lost me here, mate. I’m pretty sure that Chelsea weren’t even in Europe in that period. So how they contributed is a mystery. And I didn’t blame the others, I said that they were contributors. The English football violence abroad in the early/mid 80s was systemic, Heysel was the peak of it.

If you’ve read what I’ve already posted, you’d have seen that I’ve lost two people close to me through the virus. For that reason, I don’t believe that games should be started until the curve has been flattened which would then make it safe. And when that time comes, I think we’ll make short...

I’m not desperate in the slightest, I’m just very confident that we’ll get six points from the last twenty seven. Exactly the same way that I think you’ll win the CL. I’m biased there though because I’ve got big money on you to win it.

I’m not sure what’s to laugh at if you get me? Yes, we’re going to have to wait to be crowned champions but I honestly don’t care when it happens because I know it’s gong to happen. As I’ve said, I know two big Reds who aren’t going to see it now because of what’s happened. For that reason and...

Haha...that’s why I started in the BTN thread, the language and tone is far more sensible and less tribalistic. I’ve lurked for here for a bit so I know the layout. The BTN thread is the best one on here in my opinion.

SOS have long been behind the rail seats but there’s certainly a split of sorts within the families. There have been some uninformed comments from some of the families, but they’ve lost loved ones so they’re entitled to that in my book. The families have always tended to keep those discussions...