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Sorry if I wasn't clear but that was my point, yes UEFA won't win any fan polls held by City supporters but..... I would liken this to being arrested pre-war in Germany by the regular German police, unlikely to be fun and being handed the Gestapo....even less fun.....

Given all the issues we have had with UEFA it would have been a really strong message, because while UEFA have never missed the chance to screw us over, make no mistake the people we are siding with aren't anymore our friends than UEFA(and that might be the nicest thing I have ever posted about...

Its a strange world that we live in when I'm siding with UEFA on something, I hope we are all kicked out

Have you ever heard of the Pittsburgh Pirates?....... being part of a predetermined elite can end up being as damaging as allowing teams to rise and fall

Not sure the tern Phoenix club applies, but if enough people feel the need for an alternative I say go for it and good luck to you. My take on it is this City are nothing like the club I started watching back in the 70s, its that boiled frog analogy because the change it over time you don't...

In fairness he did go to collage in the US..

Totally get were you are coming from, I feel much the same way having watched City through the 80s and 90s I was sure that I would never stop going caring.... yesterday was something of a shock to me.....the irony is if we had kept dropping I am sure I would never have stopped!!!

I'm sure this will be spun in the media as this being City's idea and the other English clubs are just unwilling hostages

Stopped going to the Champions League games after that CSKA game at home when we had two players sent off and the referee clearly chose to book a CSKA player that hadn't been book and wasn't involved in what happened to get booked. To be honest I really haven't missed not being there, it's...

Yes.... but....the thing to remember is what is good for the club is not necessarily what I want or indeed what the majority of the fans want, that's basically why supporter ran clubs aren't especially successful

Personally I hate the Champions League an everything that its about and this just seems that on steroids, I honestly couldn't be more uninterested and thats from someone who followed City home and away in the Full Members Cup whole living in Germany for the first season of it!

Indeed didn't they not only get Herbert Chapman off Hudderfield but I bunch of their players too?

This one doesn't with one that does we are 1100 points behind United still in 6th place but quite a bit ahead of Spurs and Chelsea(200 plus points). The only changes in the top 8 when its adjusted is United and Everton swap, City move from 8th to 6th and Chelsea and Spurs switch places(so...

Yes that caught me that Arsenal didn't start moving rapidly up until the 1930s and Spurs/Chelsea post war

Totally, although I don't know much about Leeds historically as a place but my understanding before Don Revie it was more a Rugby town. Always found it strange that Bradford had two league sides for a long time and Leeds has only ever had one(although two teams).

Thanks!! it will teach me to post anything without my glasses on!

I guess in defense of Leeds seeing as they didn't start until the 20s they are always going to be playing catch up

You don't need to have been a Nazi to admit that their Nuremberg Rallies weren't spectacular nor that their Berlin Olympics wasn't the best ever staged before the modern era. Still hate the Champions League, but that doesn't mean that there aren't some fine football played at European level(one...

I was watching a video earlier and it is a season by season league table for the English top flight and the thing that shocked me was that City sat higher than United for the majority of the 20 century indeed it wasn't until our relegation against Luton that they overtook us.... That being said...

not really bothered to be honest