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EXACTLY, why indeed, as I tried to hint in my earlier post? But I thought that was the whole point of this thread, to spout cliches? Or do you actually believe all that pub-team-thug nonsense peddled by lazy journos and lapped up by the prawn sandwich brigade whose football "knowledge" is...

ha ha yes indeed. I could get into the tit-for-tat naming of examples (but we all secretly know I'd win that one don't we?). I won't though, because I thought this was the lazy cliche thread, so I thought I'd just join in the fun ;)

Speaking as a Stoke fan, I couldn't agree more - let's hope for a strong ref eh? One who doesn't put up with all that falling down for no reason, rolling around feigning injury, constant moaning and whinging about every decision no matter how ridiculous those moans and whinges so obviously are...

er no, the ref did his best to hand the game to you on a plate, even then for much of it you were second best with your over priced and over paid prima donnas sulking because Stoke didn't have the decency to roll over and give up. Given how much has been spent on that bunch of misfits I'd say...

er no, just watched it three times and Shawcross made a clean jump then Given jumped into him, no way was it a foul (except in the eyes of the ref and some one-eyed Citeh fans). I think Wiley must either be from Boslem or Dingle-land. Welllll nothing like we have this season, and yet again...

Fuller was holding up 4 fingers to indicate (correctly) it was the 4th time he'd been kicked up in the air by Barry or one of his cloggy mates. All this bollocks from you lot about Stoke "setting out to destroy football" makes me laugh, the two dirtiest players on the field were Vieira and De...