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I think he needs to change it, at least at certain times in games, but do understand why he’d choose not to and let’s be honest, he’s far more equipped to make that decision than any of us.

They’re very clearly still trying though. Some of them too much. He needs to simplify the system for a bit.

Still feel strangely calm about it all. We’re clearly incredibly fragile right now but at the same time doing the good things well for long periods of the game too. Now’s the time to have it, just got to hope it turns round soon.

Well they’re idiots then if they think they’re remotely comparable in terms of scale, damage or threat to others lives and expect to see either similar numbers arrested or as many similar sentences. Your figures seem well out for both btw, which news was reporting that?

Well I don’t particularly want to search out the video, but who is he inciting and to do what? It doesn’t sound like there’s any instruction attached to doing anything aside from him personally to the victim. On the second point, the police are investigating internally aren’t they? That’s what...

Well, no, that doesn’t sound like it would be inciting racial hatred. It would be more the direct abuse of an individual. I haven’t seen the video or the full context though. On your second point, I don’t know about the Danczuk one as like I said there’s not enough to know. On the Manchester...

There’s not enough in the public domain to know whether it is or isn’t, we don’t know what the reason for prosecution not taking place yet is. It also wouldn’t be similar to the charges we were discussing against Connelly so you’d then have to do a comparative to a more similar act once this one...

Well for a start, when has there been a state of unrest equivalent for someone else to get the same sentence exactly as those two? Or there been a state of unrest when it was a non white community that did it and there was a subsequent riot targeting them? It’s a key aggravating factor taken...

Find me one that’s not, you’re the one saying the sentencing guidelines aren’t being applied consistently! It’s still not the question I’m putting to you though. I gave you the sentencing guidelines and the judgement on Connelly as well as another one, what in either of the judgments do you...

The argument was about the sentencing guidelines, I asked you which bit you disagreed with in comparison to the guidelines?

No, you’ve found a case of a satirist mocking Islamic extremism that the Mail initially reported on inaccurately, had an IPSO complaint upheld against them and were forced to delete the article and issue an apology. https://www.ipso.co.uk/rulings/09371-16/

Another one that wasn’t involved directly in the riots but got sentenced due to stirring up racial hatred, this one got a lot of public attention at the time as it was the wife of a conservative councillor - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3wkzgpjxvo.amp Here’s the sentencing remarks...

Id be happy if it was a shitload more!

So you're just ignoring the response of the magistrates as part of that then? It is absolutely entirely based on the rules and sentencing guidelines, I think you’re trying to argue you don’t agree with the guidelines? On your second point, I just googled people jailed for online racial hatred...

Which ones are we seeing now that don’t fit the sentencing criteria? Did you read the full article you posted there?

The justice system is entirely based on the rules and the sentencing guidelines in place. That Starmer is being remotely blamed for sentencing guidelines that long predate his appointment just shows how some bad actors are politicising it for their own benefit and there’s plenty that are more...

Is there any in particular you think that about in terms of being disproportionate? I haven’t seen any that don’t align with the sentencing guidelines, which have been around for a long while now. I haven’t been following each individual case though. It’s worth saying those sentencing...

I’ve signed up to it. Most of the accounts I followed have moved across and the algorithm works so it’s like what Twitter used to be, which I really liked.

It’s pretty incredible (and also very worrying) how quickly it’s turned into a cesspit.

These two in full flow is great darts to watch.