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I was playing non league football with quite a few blues in our team. No internet then but word was going around the pitch “7”, “8” etc but none of us really believed it until we heard Sports Report in the dressing room.

I've always suspected that the forum's usage drops slowly all the time whilst it's average age goes up.

If the vocal fans moved into the 6000 seats behind the (tiny) semi-corporate two rows it would work perfectly. The sound would tumble down the stand and into the bowl. The whole GA+ thing is a bit of a red herring in my opinion. It’s not ideal but should not be a showstopper. If anyone doubts...

“Displays” aren’t atmosphere. Noise is atmosphere.

The south stand is even worse than Wolves because the roof is higher, it doesn’t have a concrete overhang, the away fans aren’t right in the middle of it, a corporate area behind it and it doesn’t have to be given up for big cup games.

Vocal fans being pitch side is part of the problem. You might as well be in an open end. The sound just drifts off into the air and doesn't spread. Every Wembley game where we've made a good noise all the big songs start at the back and spread downwards and sideways in a second or two.

I think that's the most likely outcome.

This is why my solution would be to offer incentivised cheap season tickets to the people in the existing safe standing areas first, before anyone else, with the option to move as groups. That wopuld kickstart this whole thing and it would gain its own momentum. As someone who doesn't stand in...

I remember that too. The first group of singers in that area called themselves "Blue Square" or something and the club tried to expand on that. It was one of their many bad decisions. There are maybe 800-1000 singers in that area who try hard but their songs don't really spread as they don't...

No idea why you are making that point. Stop being silly.

It's "Stupid", I'm afraid. It's embarrassing to witness.

The answer is staring us in the face, every single game,

We were really struggling in the holding midfield position without Rodri. Suddenly Gonzalez is delivering and that has given us a platform. Villa he wasn’t there.

I agree with this too. I hate those foreign ultra types. But they stop our own singing sections being heard at all and kill our own atmosphere stone dead pretty quickly as we heard tonight. Nothing spead around tonight at all because of it. A song’s volume depends on its quick spread.

If the 2-3000 fans spread around those away fans had been together at the opposite side of the ground it would have been a memorable atmosphere tonight. The rest of the stadium would have responded to its lead. It’s simple crowd psychology.

Yep.

If ever there was a perfect example of why the north stand is MCFC’s only chance to have a decent match day atmosphere it was tonight. The singing areas aren’t big enough to compete with a noisy and united away end and the rest of the stadium gives up after a while. We have one chance to...

148 left.

You could make an argument that all that suggests is that they are confident of not being relegated. I'm not saying that is the case, but just making the point.

236 for tonight. This one is touch and go.