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I don't think any club has ever been more hated than Liverpool in the years following Heysel.

Manchester City, why are you asking?

Thank you, no further questions.

Thank's Rammy, Somebody called me a rag, and it took off from there. Will close the shop soon.

If the Premier League, prior to disclosure, obtained another Pinto-hacked document that proves we inflated our sponsorship, would this be considered irrelevant as evidence?

You must have misunderstood me, I never said anything about a secret set of Pinto docs that only the PL have, and of course, if they existed, they would have been included in the body of exchanged documents. I only pointed out that since 2020, another 14.1 terabytes have been available from the...

Me and Baron Pannick

Why would I do that?

Hopefully.

Nothing would give me more satisfaction than for us to win this case.

Exactly, if we're innocent we have nothing to fear.

My point is that we don't know what evidence the Premier League has. Still alive and kicking.

Let's hope so.

Of course, I’ve never written anything else. City knows, but we who are discussing here have no idea what evidence the Premier League has presented, apart from what comes from Der Spiegel.

What's relevant is what the Premier League potentially got from him before disclosure, and that we don’t know. Merry Christmas

I have never said that Pinto was relevant following disclosure. The additional 14TB of hacked data has been available years before the disclosure.

Well, logical conclusions mixed with wishful thinking.

The funny thing is, I don’t really have a different take on how I think this will end—basically, that even if we’re guilty, they won’t be able to prove it. And if we’re innocent, there’s nothing to worry about. We might get some stick for Mancini and Fordham, but it shouldn’t be a huge disaster...

AH, on Blue Moon back in the days before CAS, I told Stefan that HH was not Mansour...

My point is that nobody in this thread knows whether it is true or not that the five hard drives he provided to the French and German authorities included additional information on City that, as Pinto claims, demonstrates criminal relevance. We can only guess.