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There certainly would be no straw man if you stopped trying to imply that I had judged Toure's entire performance, rather than what I actually did which was to focus on his costly error for the goal. I looke yet again. i even have a still image which I would upload if I could see a way to do...

Wow. i hadn't even noticed Zabaleta for some reason. Yes, it was clearly onside.

I still view it as a straw man because I never said or implied that Toure is utter shit. I don't know what you mean by "he forces him into a crowd of no fewer than three players." Who forces who into a crowd? Remember, Kolarov has been dragged out of position by Eriksen being left unmarked. I...

But I didn't hide anything. I asked why the question was posed and the aforementioned points were made and rebutted. If I were a Man City supporter I would be balancing Toure's attributes against his deficiencies at this stage in his career, relative to the available competition. He could own...

At this point, I've been asked who I support, I replied with a fairly reasonable question of "Why do you ask?" to which the response has been for me to be told that I'm talking bollocks and told that I'm wumming/trolling because I'm not being open about who I support. Doesn't really seem like...

But you seem to me to be creating a straw man argument. I didn't ever say that Toure is utter shite. I stated my opinion of his decision that I feel, if he'd made a different decision, the goal was preventable. I'm sorry if you don't want to discuss in game decision making, it happens to...

FYI @snorky from the forum rules. Avoid getting into personal arguments and derailing threads. Please keep it to private messages or, if necessary, use the ignore function. Don't needlessly flap or overreact to things, particularly in the Matchday and Transfer forums. Football's obviously an...

Read it yourself again and stop assuming that covers me. Also stop assuming I haven't been open about who I support just because I don't jump to answer the question every time it is asked.

Good job I haven't infringed on any of the rules then I'd say.

Well I don't know how you define "odd", but so what if it is true? Is there a problem with being "odd"? From my point of view, telling someone that they're talking bollocks then asking them to answer an irrelevant question is "odd" but you didn't see me labelling people.

Are you implying that I am wumming or trolling? If so, on what basis? Are you a moderator? If so, are you saying that I have to answer the question of which football team I support every time someone asks, despite the fact that I've done absolutely no "Masquerading as a City fan" as you imply...

You want me to answer your question, and your first point is to tell me that I'm posting "bollocks" without any substantiation other than to refer to someone else's points? I think I've seen more compelling persuasion tactics than that in my time. I've replied to domalino's post with my...

I agree with 1), although I've heard some say that Sterling was offside (although I haven't seen the replay I'd need to see to judge). I'm afraid incorrect decisions are frequent and it doesn't really change the suggestion that the goal could have been prevented if Toure, as the deepest...

Like I said, I didn't comment on the performance. I don't agree that it is a requirement to watch every minute of every game to have an opinion. If that logic were extended, it would be necessary to watch every match of football he's ever played to see his development, injury history etc. The...

No reason why someone shouldn't ask the question. Just like there's no reason why I shouldn't reply by asking why the question was posed.

Yeah but my point was that I felt Toure was the most sloppy player during the phase of play that lead to the Son goal. Often a lot of this would be dumped onto the centre backs. I can't see much point in running the show unless you capitalise on it through good play in both boxes.

Why do you ask?

I only watched the highlights. I didn't comment on his overall performance. The issue for me isn't that he didn't get near Eriksen or Son, it is that he didn't try to get near them. There is no point winning a midfield battle if you don't do enough in each box to win it I'm afraid.

Why do you ask?

I didn't comment on his entire game. I'm sure he was tired, but the issue was that he didn't appear to try to pick up Eriksen first and Son second. It was a costly error. People slated Lloris for his mistakes, but I don't even think the first one was very bad, and he had a very good game...