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Rodri though...

Is that not a Pep issue then? I can't see any other realistic conclusion you can make. I adore the man, but he is responsible for then collective performances and if there's a general malaise around the club that we can't shake does something drastic need to happen? Devil's advocate question of...

He definitely has stopped doing it as much. I do wonder though if the league has just caught up to him on that front. It's unrecognisably aggressive and way more physical than it was a few years ago.

Absolutely! Emphasis on 'some' of course, but this isn't new. Richard Edgehill would attest to that. We've had scapegoats and boo boys while we were winning a treble lol. It's just in the nature of some people.

Honestly mate I just can't be arsed. It's an effort thing, not a courage one. Id be on here arguing with people all day

Nowt wrong with pointing out that some people also just enjoy being cunts. Not everyone who doesn't rate him, no, obviously, but some clearly do. You don't have to follow football to know that. It's everywhere. For some they'll use any excuse to have a proper good old moan and stick the knife in...

I quite clearly don't lump everyone in the same boat if you actually read my post.

Yup. Don't get me wrong, he's been wank this season and im not sure he has the strength of personality to overcome the summer nonsense, but we gain nothing from a scapegoat scenario. That toxicity affects everyone, not just him.

Not for all, nope, but I can tell when people start to revel in throwing abuse and its absolutely there for some. A nice excuse to get out of a lot frustration from real world stuff id expect.

Awful lot of hate in this thread. A lot if it seems genuinely spiteful. Real shame it's come to this.

Kev was always shit until he was great. There was rarely a middle ground. He'd misplace pass after pass, and then suddenly he'd do something stunning and just be the best player on the pitch after that. It's almost like he needed calibrating during the game. Sometimes it was immediately...

That EK fella is such a chancer.

hey id make that pass

Makes you wonder how we won so many leagues with no "natural"LB too.

We absolutely did defend well. Constant interceptions, great one on one defending from the FBs in particular. Donnarumma punched everything away, we defended 11 corners against set piece experts perfectly. The defensive was exceptional for 97 minutes out of a 98 minute game. It wasn't just sit...

And if he doesn't do it anymore, does it mean he's changed personally? I do worry just how much winning a treble and four in a row takes from a player. It's the pinnacle of club football. You've genuinely completed it once you've done that. I reckon quite a lot of footballers will start...

so its wank if we lose and good if we win, right?

I absolutely get that mate. Sorry! Just genuinely a bit fearful of who is reading this! I know people are paying attention. The England stuff was Guardiola making it quite clear that he didn't see Jack as 'fit', and Grealish immediately turning up for England looking like there was nowt wrong...

Only fair that a few would be in denial re Grealish given they've likely not heard the stories that some have from people they have absolutely no reason to doubt. It really isn't hard to read between the lines. The England stuff was the biggest public indicator.

Was a while back tbf and he was a teenager. Might be pushing 6'4 now, but he's definitely not 6'5/6 which the internet suggests.