“The work of God”?

[Ban-jani]

@Ban-jani s xmasses have all come at once on this thread. He gets to argue, sorry, 'debate' with almost all the members at once.

It’s actually been quite interesting with some.

Others have described Christians as “horrific”, “flat earther types” and morons.

All the aggression and the sour arguments have come from a handful of atheists, not the other way around.

But don’t worry, you get back on your high horse and pretend otherwise.

Have a lovely day.

 

[BimboBob]

I'd love to hear your thoughts Ban on what actually happened.

 

[urban genie]

When the anti-religionists on here begin to discuss something like Nagarjuna’s Mulamadhyamikakarikas, the inner chapters of the Zhuangzi, Meister Eckhart, the mystical insights of Ibn Arabi, or the impenetrable lyricism of Dogen’s Shobogenzo with some kind of rudimentary facility, it might then be possible for a meaningful discussion to take place.

Until then....

Well as this buddhism isn't a theism the teaching on the middle way are irrelevant to this thread on god as though dieties can exist they are not important , and as for eikhart, he was a dominican monk and we all know they were heretics - Franciscans rule and all that well I did go to the monestsry as a kid.

Oh and from my experience tibetan/east asian buddhism is much more slack compared to the Theravada school,

As for the rest I couldn't say I know anything without looking them up

 

[Ban-jani]

I'd love to hear your thoughts Ban on what actually happened.

Happened to what?

 

[BimboBob]

Jesus, the start of Christianity.

 

[BimboBob]

You have an intelligent mind, cut through the rubbish and tell us what you think is real...

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

Let's say that the consensus is that our species, being the higher primates, Homo Sapiens, has been on the planet for at least 100,000 years, maybe more. Francis Collins says maybe 100,000. Richard Dawkins thinks maybe a quarter-of-a-million. I'll take 100,000. In order to be a Christian, you have to believe that for 98,000 years, our species suffered and died, most of its children dying in childbirth, most other people having a life expectancy of about 25 years, dying of their teeth. Famine, struggle, bitterness, war, suffering, misery, all of that for 98,000 years.

Heaven watches this with complete indifference. And then 2000 years ago, thinks 'That's enough of that. It's time to intervene,' and the best way to do this would be by condemning someone to a human sacrifice somewhere in the less literate parts of the Middle East. Don't lets appeal to the Chinese, for example, where people can read and study evidence and have a civilization. Let's go to the desert and have another revelation there. This is nonsense. It can't be believed by a thinking person

Christopher hitchens

 

[urban genie]

Oh and I need to correct this god came down to earth as jesus to help his people was a unique thing.


The Jade Emperor used to do it all the time and the original holy trinity of vishnu, bhrama and shiva would oftern pop down from time to time.


Think this thread is very insulting to other dieties that have equal claim to the title god

YHWH gets far too much special treatment.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Jesus, the start of Christianity.

My thoughts on Jesus, the start of Christianity, are mirrored in Part II Chapter XII of this book:

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/31885/31885-h/31885-h.htm#Page_111

Also in this expert from another book:

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Gerhard_Van_Den_Heever/publication/233578307_Jesus_in_the_World_of_Religions_a_Preliminary_Plotting_of_a_Route_Map/links/59a47bfe4585157031172d3f/Jesus-in-the-World-of-Religions-a-Preliminary-Plotting-of-a-Route-Map.pdf?origin=publication_detail

(click on the pdf link within the link)

It’s all just a plagiarism of older myths from older religions. And it just happens to be, that these [much] older religions and identical stories were from places that were on the trade route from China, through India, through Persia, to Arabia. The stories of Buddha, Chrishna, and the Zoroastrian religion came into Arabia with the travellers to and from these areas through trade.

Closer to Arabia was Egypt, Crete, Greece and Rome, as well as the older religions and empires of Akkadia Cannaan Assyria and Babylonia who all pre-dated Judaism and Christianity... all of these have pre-dating similar and even identical religious stories to what was eventually plagiarised by the Abrahamic religions.

 

[KS55]

It’s actually been quite interesting with some.

Others have described Christians as “horrific”, “flat earther types” and morons.

All the aggression and the sour arguments have come from a handful of atheists, not the other way around.

But don’t worry, you get back on your high horse and pretend otherwise.

Have a lovely day.

Your arrogance is breathtaking.
I notice you haven't asked the atheists what they actually believe, rather you have told them what you think they believe.
So, for example, you told me I believed that the universe was the result of a "random" event. Interestingly, this is an active area of current scientific debate: what rules appertained before the big bang? Where were the rules of physics before? In any case, there are more choices than an intelligent designer vs a random event.
Actually, I have no view on this other than a passing layman's interest in science. I am an existentialist by inclination and thus think the question is irrelevant, except to scientific enquiry.
Similarly, I do not think my brain is the sole source of my moral views. There is a higher power, but it is not divine, it is the process of civilization. The higher power is man, and, while I am free to develop whatever personal moral philosophy I wish, I do not think that it is a good idea to ignore the intellectual weight of millenia. Metron Anthropos is a very old idea. Man is the measure, not "I am the measure."