10 | Jack Grealish - 2024/25

[B\connellblue]

Pep could try him out as a full-back, you never know

He'd give away too many corners .

 

[decmancity]

Where does all this talk come from that he's some massive boozer?

Sure he had a good scoop celebrating some trophies, but it's not like he's seen falling out of clubs on the lash every week. If he was, you'd certainly know about it in this day and age.

Of course he could be drinking at home. I just think you in today's world if he was this huge piss head half of this forum think, there would be a lot more evidence than just getting smashed during some trophy parades.

He would be nowhere near the squad if it was true.

Why would Pep tolerate it?

He would have a mystery injury to cover it up like others have in the past and be gone for several months

 

[Lauz9888]

Where does all this talk come from that he's some massive boozer?

Sure he had a good scoop celebrating some trophies, but it's not like he's seen falling out of clubs on the lash every week. If he was, you'd certainly know about it in this day and age.

Of course he could be drinking at home. I just think you in today's world if he was this huge piss head half of this forum think, there would be a lot more evidence than just getting smashed during some trophy parades.

I think that all we can confidently say is that when he drinks, there's evidence he can go a bit wild with it and not stop at the point most sensible people would.

If he's drinking himself into oblivion several times a week then it's obviously a very serious problem. But we have no evidence that this is the case and it's insulting both to Jack and to people who suffer from addiction to suggest that he is.

If it's a year of teetotalism or close to it, with a week or so in the summer of heavy drinking as a part of letting off steam after a long season and before starting pre-season, then it's not alcoholism. It's also not particularly wise, but there's a big area of possibility between wisdom and addiction.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

David Silva was a piss head but it wasn’t really talked about as it didn’t fit the English lad caricature.

Think we owe Grealish the benefit of the doubt, if he was out several times a week getting mashed in bars it would all over the internet. Some would sell snide videos to the daily mail before he’s even finished his 3am kebab.

 

[mdj0520]

He would be nowhere near the squad if it was true.

Why would Pep tolerate it?

He would have a mystery injury to cover it up like others have in the past and be gone for several months

Think the fact he has been left out of match day squads and had club suspensions over the course of his time here speaks to his off the field habits. Jack guaghn has reported on him being left out of a match day squad for showing up late (read between the lines), lescott was talking about it off camera before the palace match last season, and we know of several other instances.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

David Silva was a piss head but it wasn’t really talked about as it didn’t fit the English lad caricature.

Think we owe Grealish the benefit of the doubt, if he was out several times a week getting mashed in bars it would all over the internet. Some would sell snide videos to the daily mail before he’s even finished his 3am kebab.

This is true. I can’t remember the player but whoever it was eluded to the fact that Silva, when on the grog, wouldn’t stop.

 

[Damanino]

now he either starts getting end product or Pep will phase him out of City. time to deliver and quick he needs to save his City career and if its mostly spent with some more injuries and sitting on the bench we cannot have that much longer. still bothers me we didnt get too much out of him given his price and salary. about 6 months of great performance in the treble year with another 6 months good-ish but those were here and there bits and pieces rest were not very good or mediocre and it has been kind of a dropping from lately with not scoring at all in 2024.

new players coming in has to wake Grealish up and be up for a fight for his place and deliver performances to keep him in the side and in first eleven or else he wont start many games.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

This is true. I can’t remember the player but whoever it was eluded to the fact that Silva, when on the grog, wouldn’t stop.

Micah on his podcast with Lineker and Shearer. Told a story about them in the USA.

 

[ScottSinclair]

This is true. I can’t remember the player but whoever it was eluded to the fact that Silva, when on the grog, wouldn’t stop.

Also has a massive cock

 

[Luddite_Blue]

Reading this endless thread....Jack can't score a goal because..

His mentally unable after being too pissed too often

His house got robbed and he's still dealing with that

He had a baby and had to travel to London hospital for the birth

He's been fouled too much and it's taking it's toll

He loses confidence when criticized and needs love for motivation

Kickings he got at Villa are catching up

And now.....He gave too much of himself during the treble and has been burnt out ever since.

In my mind all this daft speculation is pointless, Jack has been shit for the last two and a half years and needs to move on... he just doesn't fit in our team, he's a player that doesn't suit Pep's style of football and clearly isn't putting in the effort at training (Pep's words).
I have no idea why we paid all that money for him. But at the end of the day, I guess that is not his fault.

You're posting abject nonsense.

So Grealish featuring fully in a team that won 3 Premier League titles in the 3 seasons he's been here including winning a treble and claiming an historic 4th title in a row is being shit for the last two and a half years and not fitting into the team.

Your post is too fucking absurd for words.

 

[Luddite_Blue]

Everything but the fact that he's a championship level footballer

Laughable post

Grealish has featured fully in a City team that since he's been here has won 3 Premier Leagues, 1 Champions League, 1 FA Cup, 1 UEFA Super Cup and 1 FIFA Club World Cup.

 

[Luddite_Blue]

now he either starts getting end product or Pep will phase him out of City. time to deliver and quick he needs to save his City career and if its mostly spent with some more injuries and sitting on the bench we cannot have that much longer. still bothers me we didnt get too much out of him given his price and salary. about 6 months of great performance in the treble year with another 6 months good-ish but those were here and there bits and pieces rest were not very good or mediocre and it has been kind of a dropping from lately with not scoring at all in 2024.

new players coming in has to wake Grealish up and be up for a fight for his place and deliver performances to keep him in the side and in first eleven or else he wont start many games.

More utter nonsense.

So one of the greatest footballing minds of all time who values work rate above all else selected a player for 2 years who's performances 'were not very good or mediocre' - what sort of revisionist bullshit is this?

What the many naysayers on this thread have failed to grasp after 3 years is that when Grealish is in the team City tend to win more and when he's not in the team City tend to lose more.

 

[Luddite_Blue]

There's a question of respect here. The below are rightly held in high esteem by the fans of their respective clubs:

The Everton title winning team of 1970 with the midfield of Kendall, Harvey and Ball is still revered at Goodison: the Arsenal double winning team of Mclintock, George and Radford; Derby's title winning sides of 1972 and 1975 of Todd, Gemmill, Hinton and Hector; the Ipswich side of 1981 of Butcher, Osman, Gates and Mariner which won the UEFA cup and went so close to winning the league; the Villa side of Mortimer, Cowans, Morley, Withe and Shaw which won the league in 1981 and European Cup in 1982; the Everton side of the mid eighties of Southall, Ratcliffe, Reid, Steven and Sharp which won 2 leagues, the FA cup and Cup Winners Cup; the Leeds side of 1992 which won the league with a midfield of Speed, Batty, McAllister and Strachan; the Blackburn side of 1995 of Hendry, Le Saux, Sherwood, Sutton and Shearer; and the Leicester side of Schmeichel, Huth, Kante, Mahrez and Vardy which won the league in 2016.

Yet Manchester City with Grealish featuring fully won more than all of the above. And also claimed a fourth title in a row for the first time in the history of English football with Grealish featuring in 20 league games, which is readily glossed over in this thread.

So it seems to me that the fantasy football fans who infest this thread either have a rag like arrogance, sense of entitlement and lack of knowledge or understanding of the history of English football. Or a deep visceral loathing and jealousy of Grealish.

Either way, this thread is a fucking embarrassment.

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

Either way, this thread is a fucking embarrassment.

Maybe, maybe not.. but footy at the top is cut throat and all about what have you done for me lately?

Personally I think Grealish is done as anyone I've seen Pep publicly criticize has never come back into the team.. be it Zlatan, Yaya, Kalvin, Cancelo etc.

You might call me cold but I'm just seeing things in perspective since it broke my heart what I saw happen with Kun.. he had 3 20 goal seasons in a row under Pep and then his knee meniscus happened. While he clearly wanted to stay.. the club had to let him go.

I still love Kun though and remember the good times!

 

[Luddite_Blue]

Maybe, maybe not.. but footy at the top is cut throat and all about what have you done for me lately?

Personally I think Grealish is done as anyone I've seen Pep publicly criticize has never come back into the team.. be it Zlatan, Yaya, Kalvin, Cancelo etc.

You might call me cold but I'm just seeing things in perspective since it broke my heart what I saw happen with Kun.. he had 3 20 goal seasons in a row under Pep and then his knee meniscus happened. While he clearly wanted to stay.. the club had to let him go.

I still love Kun though and remember the good times!

I think it's perfectly valid to separate this season's performances from previous seasons and it's legitimate to constructively criticize.

However, for so called City fans to slate him for his first 3 seasons where the team won 3 Premier Leagues, 1 Champions League, 1 FA Cup, 1 UEFA Super Cup and 1 FIFA Club World Cup is bang out of order and it also devalues City's achievements, if they are effectively saying these trophies were won with 10 men

Additionally, Grealish has started 2 Premier League defeats this season, including Villa where he was one of the better players - I don't think that merits 272 pages of bile to be directed at him.

 

[oldhamblue]

I can't ever recall him winning Man Of The Match in any game. I can't remember a game where I thought Grealish was brilliant today. His time here is done in my opinion

 

[Xhavenjoe]

Additionally, Grealish has started 2 Premier League defeats this season, including Villa where he was one of the better players - I don't think that merits 272 pages of bile to be directed at him.

Where are you getting 272 pages of bile?
A lof these pages have been complimentary.
The most recent pages are negative because he has been a no show this season.
Whether he's been injured, unavailable or whatever, our current team needs a peak Grealish and Pep just doesn't see it.
There is no way a young upstart like Savinho should be challenging Jack, never mind getting ahead of him in the pecking order.

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

I think it's perfectly valid to separate this season's performances from previous seasons and it's legitimate to constructively criticize.

However, for so called City fans to slate him for his first 3 seasons where the team won 3 Premier Leagues, 1 Champions League, 1 FA Cup, 1 UEFA Super Cup and 1 FIFA Club World Cup is bang out of order and it also devalues City's achievements, if they are effectively saying these trophies were won with 10 men

Additionally, Grealish has started 2 Premier League defeats this season, including Villa where he was one of the better players - I don't think that merits 272 pages of bile to be directed at him.

How does it devalue city's achievements?

Anyone who thinks that Grealish wasn't great in those seasons must assume the other players carried him. If anything they think winning those trophies with 10 men shows how incredible the other players were

 

[Luddite_Blue]

Where are you getting 272 pages of bile?
A lof these pages have been complimentary.
The most recent pages are negative because he has been a no show this season.
Whether he's been injured, unavailable or whatever, our current team needs a peak Grealish and Pep just doesn't see it.
There is no way a young upstart like Savinho should be challenging Jack, never mind getting ahead of him in the pecking order.

The thread is nominally from this season - there aren't lots of pages that are complimentary.

The thread is like the witch trials - if City don't win and Grealish plays Grealish is blamed and
if City don't win and Grealish doesn't play, Grealish is blamed.

It's a classic case of scapegoating.

 

[Luddite_Blue]

How does it devalue city's achievements?

Anyone who thinks that Grealish wasn't great in those seasons must assume the other players carried him. If anything they think winning those trophies with 10 men shows how incredible the other players were

It devalues City's achievements to suggest what was won could had been done with 10 players - it diminishes the difficulty of beating Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and Inter Milan for instance.

It also undermines Pep to suggest he'd have a passenger in the team

The fanciful notion that what was won could have been won with 10 players also then raises the question of why wasn't the treble and Champions League won before Grealish signed?