19 | Ilkay Gundogan - 2024/25

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Have to be real careful about recruiting even from La Liga now. It's become a slow retirement home.

Stuck with him another year now.
I don’t have a problem with him being here as long as he plays half the minutes he’s gotten this season. He should only start in lower table league games, group stage CL games or cup games when the fixture list is congested.
 
I don’t have a problem with him being here as long as he plays half the minutes he’s gotten this season. He should only start in lower table league games, group stage CL games or cup games when the fixture list is congested.
Minutes that can be given to OReilly in central midfield. No thanks.

Needs to be out with Kev, a real shame but it's the reality.
 
Minutes that can be given to OReilly in central midfield. No thanks.

Needs to be out with Kev, a real shame but it's the reality.
Well if we end up in the EL we aren’t getting anyone worthwhile and can’t afford to ship too many off so we better buckle up for that possibility.
 
Well if we end up in the EL we aren’t getting anyone worthwhile and can’t afford to ship too many off so we better buckle up for that possibility.
What has signing any new players got to do with anything. Europa League or not, give the minutes to anyone else.
 
He was just starting to find form then gets dropped. I thought him and Nico G had the makings of a decent partnership.
Trie. But none of our greats are difference makers anymore. He went from bad to average. I think Bernie gave us as much as Gundo would have offered. The 3 Legends are all past it. And while they might have good games hre and there. The expectations should be that they'll be average.

Would i have started him? Sure. So; expect excellence? No.

O'Reilly, Kova, Marmoush, Gvardiol and Doku as a sub. Those are the people i look to for exceptional play. The rest i just hope they can be average rather than poor.
 
Trie. But none of our greats are difference makers anymore. He went from bad to average. I think Bernie gave us as much as Gundo would have offered. The 3 Legends are all past it. And while they might have good games hre and there. The expectations should be that they'll be average.

Would i have started him? Sure. So; expect excellence? No.

O'Reilly, Kova, Marmoush, Gvardiol and Doku as a sub. Those are the people i look to for exceptional play. The rest i just hope they can be average rather than poor.
there’s a pretty searing indictment of where we’re at.
 
Best he’s played since his return. He played well.

But let’s not get carried away. He is 34, we need to move on. This season has been a wake up call and this club needs to move forward.
 
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