Mad Eyed Screamer
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Now read my post again - specifically the bit that mentions "this century" and "23 years" and "at Cheltenham"
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2023 Grand National
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Mad Eyed Screamer
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So world wide on average over the last 4 years 129 footballers have had sudden death per yearYes no problem.
FIFA sudden death report published 2020 .
From 2014 to 2018 there were 617 cases during a 5 year period .
FIFA website it isn’t difficult thanks .
On average in the UK 200 horses die racing.
In the US that figure is 2000 a year.
Would you like me to do a world wide figure or do you accept that your initial comment that more footballers die than horses per year was a load of bollocks?
Slipper One
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While I respect your view on 'cruelty at all times' and I think most people would be on the same side as you and support it.I oppose all kinds of cruelty at all times, be it to animals or humans.
But it's the Grand National that was on this week, which makes this an apt time to be commenting on it. In other weeks, I will comment on other injustices.
Rather than criticising me, let's stick to the point: this is a barbaric event in which many animals have greatly suffered and died. If nothing is done, that will continue to happen.
I am not criticizing you, I am only pointing out your naivety, lack of understanding and selective moral stance.
You view horse racing as cruel and barbaric, but add nothing to back it up.
- How many horses refused to start in the Grand National?
- How many horses refused to jump a fence in the Grand National.
If it was such a negative experience for a horse, then trust me, they wouldn't do it again and if you could 'force' them to, then they wouldn't jump and race with such enthusiasm?
You may not realize it, but horses are very much like people and have differing abilities and personalities. Some reach a point where racing doesn't interest them any longer and they are retired from the sport, whereas others can continue into their teens and still enjoy racing.
Taking a moralistic view on horse racing is very commendable if you see it as cruel, but why are you turning a blind eye to the serious aspects of animal cruelty, such as dog fighting and Halal slaughter?
Do you REALLY care about animal cruelty, or is this just a case of double standards and targeting a sport that is easy and visible, which can be easily fed into the quagmire of social media hysteria?
Slipper One
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Compared to approximately 460,000 dogs in the UK and presumably far more cats.Liverpool the Grand National and 2000 horse deaths are totally fucking irrelevant. So just 5 horse deaths at Aintree Grand National since 2012 and that includes the one the ignorant cunts you support killed yesterday through delaying the race and distressing some of the horses . So it would be just 4 horses since 2012 . It is the Grand National not some fucking dirt track drug infested racetrack in the USA which you are desperately trying to compare with the biggest race in the world in Liverpool ENGLAND. Get your facts right before setting out on a disinformation campaign. You lost yesterday you will lose tomorrow and you will lose next year you absolute fucking crank .
Is it because horses are larger, they are competing in a sport or they have a jockey riding them that makes race horse fatalities more important?
Mad Eyed Screamer
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I haven't said at all if I support the protesters or not. I simply challenged your ridiculous comment that more footballers die than horses.Liverpool the Grand National and 2000 horse deaths are totally fucking irrelevant. So just 5 horse deaths at Aintree Grand National since 2012 and that includes the one the ignorant cunts you support killed yesterday through delaying the race and distressing some of the horses . So it would be just 4 horses since 2012 . It is the Grand National not some fucking dirt track drug infested racetrack in the USA which you are desperately trying to compare with the biggest race in the world in Liverpool ENGLAND. Get your facts right before setting out on a disinformation campaign. You lost yesterday you will lose tomorrow and you will lose next year you absolute fucking crank .
You are also very selective in only stating the Grand National.
Since the year 2000, a total of 62 horses have died at Aintree
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GaudinoMotors
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So bad taste it really suits Liverpool and the orange, curler wearing, pissed trout lips.
And politically motivated. They don’t even know the front of horse from its arse .Compared to approximately 460,000 dogs in the UK and presumably far more cats.
Is it because horses are larger, they are competing in a sport or they have a jockey riding them that makes race horse fatalities more important?
But the thread is about the Grand National. Why are you circulating disinformation about the USA and Cheltenham that have absolutely nothing to do with the GRAND NATIONAL????I haven't said at all if I support the protesters or not. I simply challenged your ridiculous comment that more footballers die than horses.
You are also very selective in only stating the Grand National.
Since the year 2000, a total of 62 horses have died at Aintree
Mad Eyed Screamer
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Disinformation? Ha ha ha haBut the thread is about the Grand National. Why are you circulating disinformation about the USA and Cheltenham that have absolutely nothing to do with the GRAND NATIONAL????
Says the man who said more footballers died than horses!
The football player stats were used for a comparison because this is a football forum and not one of us would stop watching football or want football banned because a “ number” of footballers died over a period of time . Meanwhile just 5 horses have died at the Grand National in the last 11 years and a few ignorant media driven politically motivated idiots want it banned ???Disinformation? Ha ha ha ha
Says the man who said more footballers died than horses!
We live in a world of disinformation and sadly people are brainwashed by it .