31 | Ederson - 2021/22 Performances

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

when bravo had the stats brought up about how many times hes conceded 1st shot every one was all over it. ederson can do no wrong despite , possibly , being a worse shot stopper

Eddie is worth his money on his distribution alone, but I would like him, not perhaps to save a few more shots, just, er, perhaps, to get in the way of 'em.

 

[goatinho]

Eddie is worth his money on his distribution alone, but I would like him, not perhaps to save a few more shots, just, er, perhaps, to get in the way of 'em.

cant fault his passing at all. possibly best in the world and ive said before he set goals up plenty of times , but 9 out of 10 games he concedes 1st shot. is this concentration or or just piss poor shot stopping skills?

 

[deano ou812]

To be fair he was poor tonight by his high standards,but shit happens sometimes you have an off day unfortunately which he did ..

 

[Tugay One Cup]

cant fault his passing at all. possibly best in the world and ive said before he set goals up plenty of times , but 9 out of 10 games he concedes 1st shot. is this concentration or or just piss poor shot stopping skills?

A combination of things. One of those being that he's not an incredible shot stopper but I'd also argue it's because of our tendency to concede really good chances. He's blameless for the first one but I think the second one is mostly down to Fernandinho and then Laporte doesn't close down quick enough. The third one is a penalty so I don't expect him to save it but, accumulatively, I don't think he saves enough of them. I'm not sure if that's down to coaching and a lack of preparation and research on penalty takers.

I'm not really surprised this thread is so active because it's become a go-to complaint for certain people but the main area I think he let himself down tonight was his distribution. That's his bread and butter and he simply wasn't on it.

 

[Metalartin]

First goal, not sure how he is supposed to save that. It was a bit of a freak goal, the way he just hit it without even looking at the goal(in fact he was looking the other way) and the way it bobbled to the inside of the post.

Second goal, maybe he could have done better but really, if any of our players, against ANY keeper in the world, gets into the position Vinicius was in. If it's anything but a goal, they are saying he missed a sitter.

Third goal, it's Benzema from the the penalty spot. Who really expected anything but a goal for a start? Who really expected him to gamble on staying still waiting for the dink(something he never normally tries), rather than picking a side(something he will have done some prep on)?

I can't believe people are comparing him to Bravo. A lot of the goals Bravo was conceding were mistakes. Most of Eddie's aren't mistakes at all(he always seems to save some for Spurs though, annoyingly). Tonight for example, none of those were goalkeeping errors, yet people are trying to say they were.

The only thing I'd say, is we've not seen him hit a run of form where he's making worldy saves that he's no right to save. It's kind of hard, when City dominate possession for so long and concede so few chances, to have one of those nights where he wins us a game also(few would credit him for winning the match by making one worldy save either IMO). I suppose he could still improve in that sense though. Does that mean he's shit or we should get rid though? Does it heck!

 

[nellyonthewing]

First goal not sure how he is supposed to save that, it was a bit of a freak goal the way way he just hit it without even looking at the goal(in fact he was looking the other way) and the way it bobbled to the inside of the post.

Second goal, maybe he could have done better but really if any of our players, against ANY keeper in the world, gets into the position Vinicius was in and it's anything but a goal and they are saying he missed a sitter.

Third goal, it's Benzema from the the penalty spot. Who really expected anything but a goal for a start? Who really expected him to gamble on staying still waiting for the dink(something he never normally tries), rather than picking a side(something he might have done some prep on)?

I can't believe people are comparing him to Bravo. Some of the goals Bravo was conceding were mistakes. Most of Eddie's aren't mistakes at all(he always seems to save some for Spurs though, annoyingly).

They only thing I'd say is we've not seen him hit run of form where he's making worldy saves that he's no right to saves. It's kind of hard when City dominate possession for so long to have one of those nights where he wins us a game also. I suppose he could still improve in that sense though. Does that mean he's shit or we should get rid though? Does it heck!

He looks too heavy and thick set to me . Not agile or nimble enough to leap onto goal bound strikes yet not tall enough to command the box.

 

[Frankie lad]

I feel he thinks he is a far better keeper than he really is and his arrogance transfers as we saw in Steffen at Wembley.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Armchair psychologists out in full force tonight!

 

[Mike N]

Very disappointed with him tonight. Put us under pressure with his sloppy passes and just knew he wouldn’t keep the second and the penalty out.

 

[Metalartin]

Distribution not to his usual standards, I'd agree with that.

 

[goatinho]

still waiting for someone to put put the shots to goals ratio compared to bravo up?

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Distribution v poor first half. Sloppy game from him. One good save.

 

[ninjamonkey]

cant fault his passing at all. possibly best in the world and ive said before he set goals up plenty of times , but 9 out of 10 games he concedes 1st shot. is this concentration or or just piss poor shot stopping skills?

I'm highly sceptical of your stat, I doubt its anywhere near that but even if it was. What does that prove? If every first shot on target he faces is a well finished shot that gives him no chance what relevance does it have to anything?

we are so dominant that we don't give many chances up, teams rarely get half chances or are allowed to take potshots for ederson to make routine saves to bolster his numbers, the only chances we concede are generally glorious chances where the attacker is expected to score them and people fail to consider this when deducing that he hasn't made a save yet but we've conceded so he must be shit.

still waiting for someone to put put the shots to goals ratio compared to bravo up?

Why, what will that show unless you're going to break down every single shot within that ratio to determine the liklihood of a save being made from that shot first.

Goalkeeping stats are very misleading, they'll fit anything you want to say but seeing as you seem keen for some, there was something posted a while back in here that showed ederson is actually one of the best shot stoppers around, easily stands up with and in some cases surpasses keepers who are labelled great shot stoppers.

Courtois is statistically one of the best shot stoppers, did he make a worthwhile save tonight? Should he have saved the first and the 4th? If ederson concedes the 4 he does tonight they'd be people on here claiming all 4 were saveable.

 

[FantasyIreland]

He needs to switch on more,stay focused,be more decisive,and not take the unnecessary and increasingly frequent suicidal risks.

He is believing his own hype somewhat,and his ability to stop the ball from entering the net has not earned him that right.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

cant fault his passing at all. possibly best in the world and ive said before he set goals up plenty of times , but 9 out of 10 games he concedes 1st shot. is this concentration or or just piss poor shot stopping skills?

Watford's goal on Saturday was pretty much the same as the Dippers' third at Wembers, and Zack took a mighty beating for not stopping it. I think all our goalies suffer from not getting much action, men and women.

 

[OrigamiNinja]

Watford's goal on Saturday was pretty much the same as the Dippers' third at Wembers, and Zack took a mighty beating for not stopping it. I think all our goalies suffer from not getting much action, men and women.

I say the same to my mrs on the few occasions my services are required.

 

[meeesh]

He is beginning to worry me at the most crucial part of the season now,if he shakes off the boredom during the match and get's back on it we be ok

 

[Pollocksheader]

Pens and 1v1s for the most part are going to favour the forwards, especially at this level. We only consider otherwise because we have become used to watching our profligate forwards miss chance after chance…Mahrez missed three 1v1s tonight and didn’t hit the target with any.

Im not saying that Eddies positioning is always the best, it isn’t, but I can’t look at Fern miss a tackle on the halfway line and watch Laporte stand there with his finger up his arse and blame Eddie for it.

Im not blaming him as such, the defending doesn’t help. He was far too over his near post which gave the attacker a lot of the goal to pass it in. As I put in another post, Eddie for me just never pulls a save out of nowhere, where he has no right to save it and saves the day for us. We concede many times off the first chance against us. Not howlers but I’d just love to go wow Eddie you’ve dug us out of a hole saving that. It just doesn’t happen, we just obviously benefit from how good he is for building our attacks.

 

[Pollocksheader]

Same old comments whenever we concede, it's almost as if there's a lot of goldfish memories on here, you all saw what happens to us when ederson isn't on the pitch at Wembley didn't you?

How anybody can make the comment about him conceding the first shot they've had is beyond me, it's a fucking brilliant finish no keeper in the world gets even close to it. In fact no keeper is saving any of the goals. Second goal our defence has allowed their player to run into the six yard box, he's never giving ederson even a chance and ederson can't come out because a simple square ball was on the second he leaves his net and the third is a penalty. Truly fucked up to be attempted to suggest he should be saving any of those.

The ederson thread weeding out the morons once more, it never ever fails.

That first shot which we seem to always concede with, are never shockers from him, well maybe Liverpool at home. As a team we concede from that first chance. He, as a goalkeeper is allowed to save from time to time though. Unless of course you are saying every side we play seem to score unstoppable goals against us. We had this with Bravo and he got battered. I don’t want Ederson battered but I also want him to save us as the last line of defence, like many keepers do when we play them. He’s the best around to build our attacks, I have no doubt of that and maybe it’s the price we pay. It doesn’t mean it can’t be pointed out though.

 

[B\connellblue]

I don't the anyone expects him to make a save at this stage They're that rare. Need to stop the opposition before they get as far as him.