31 | Ederson - 2021/22 Performances

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SWP's back said:
Yes which I is why I’d sack the GK coach and bring someone in to get Eddie back to his levels from 3 or 4 years ago. He arrived as a very good shot stopper. He is no longer a very good shot stopper. That’s a coaching issue for me rather than talent issue, but something clearly isn’t right at the minute.
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100% agree with that
 
BlueMoonRisin’ said:
Of course we need Haaland. You're right, Ederson doesn't have to pull of worldies when we've been solid in defence but i maintain he's saved more goals than he's conceded. How many times has he raced off his line to snuff out danger?

Do you want us to sell him? if so which keeper fits how we play better and is a better all round keeper than Eddie?
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Answered your question above to someone else.
 
SWP's back said:
Yes which I is why I’d sack the GK coach and bring someone in to get Eddie back to his levels from 3 or 4 years ago. He arrived as a very good shot stopper. He is no longer a very good shot stopper. That’s a coaching issue for me rather than talent issue, but something clearly isn’t right at the minute.
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I think he gets bored, and loses concentration, not much can be done about that because he could often be sat on a deckchair in the penalty area D, we generally concede so few chances.

Had to be alert yesterday, as we kept playing for offside (badly), nothing much he could do about either goal for me, stopped one they should have scored.
 
SWP's back said:
Answered your question above to someone else.
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Fair enough mate, but so many on here are quick to put the boot in without explaining why. And i think you are right, i agree it's likely coaching issues. But just because Ederson has been a bit shakey this season doesn't mean he is done for, far from it.
 
cleavers said:
I think he gets bored, and loses concentration, not much can be done about that because he could often be sat on a deckchair in the penalty area D, we generally concede so few chances.

Had to be alert yesterday, as we kept playing for offside (badly), nothing much he could do about either goal for me, stopped one they should have scored.
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Was that the one he raced out to thwart Antonio from Fernandinho's weak back pass?
 
BlueMoonRisin’ said:
No he's not the biggest reason we haven't won the CL. Pep's overthinking and bizzare formations against Monaco Lyon and Chelsea cost us. Liverpool's ferel fans pre meditated antics on smashing our coach up cost us, and VAR and UEFA cost us by ruling out Sterling's late winner against Spurs.

But hey ho, let's all blame Ederson as "the biggest reason". Lol.
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Pep's made his mistakes but there's no way Ederson isn't the biggest reason. It's virtually impossible to win the CL with a keeper that can't make saves.

Courtois made an outstanding save against us and then Madrid scored. It's those fine margins that cost us. We conceded 5 to Spurs and half the goals went through Ederson, Lyon went through him then he proceeded to mess up an easy catch.

He's a bad shot stopper. There will never be a day where Ederson wins a MOTM for City.
 
SWP's back said:
The flag was up and it was offside.
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Still was alert and did make a save. Atletico Madrid was another example of him making a crucial save. There isn't much difference in the two keepers. Alisson wasn't too clever last season.
 
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itisrising said:
Pep's made his mistakes but there's no way Ederson isn't the biggest reason. It's virtually impossible to win the CL with a keeper that can't make saves.

Courtois made an outstanding save against us and then Madrid scored. It's those fine margins that cost us. We conceded 5 to Spurs and half the goals went through Ederson, Lyon went through him then he proceeded to mess up an easy catch.

He's a bad shot stopper. There will never be a day where Ederson wins a MOTM for City.
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Ok then it's clear you want him out, fair enough. Who is a better keeper that's available to sign this summer?
 
itisrising said:
Pep's made his mistakes but there's no way Ederson isn't the biggest reason. It's virtually impossible to win the CL with a keeper that can't make saves.

Courtois made an outstanding save against us and then Madrid scored. It's those fine margins that cost us. We conceded 5 to Spurs and half the goals went through Ederson, Lyon went through him then he proceeded to mess up an easy catch.

He's a bad shot stopper. There will never be a day where Ederson wins a MOTM for City.
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If that happend that would be down to the whole defence totally collapsing. And if you want that type of keeper then that option would be playing for a relegation side.
 
cleavers said:
I've said it elsewhere tonight, that was our worst defensive performance of the season, with obvious mitigating circumstances of those who are out.
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West Ham didn't quite bombard us in a way that Atletico had done to us in the second leg of the Champions League.
 
RayCTID said:
Still was alert and did make a save. Atletico Madrid was another example of him making a crucial save. There isn't much difference in the two keepers. Alisson wasn't too clever last season.
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You’re right, Alisson wasn’t last season at all but he’s been very good this season and that’s why I wouldn’t sell Eddie but something needs to change.
 
SWP's back said:
You’re right, Alisson wasn’t last season at all but he’s been very good this season and that’s why I wouldn’t sell Eddie but something needs to change.
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But it is not down to coaching either. We don't have a bad defensive record considering his wobbles and we are still in ahead in the title race. Most of his coaching was done at youth level at Benfica and considering his age there is nothing more can be done now and it is all down to Maturity. It also seems Pep is more than happy with both Goalkeeping Coaches and Eddy.
 
RayCTID said:
That was probably down to our makeshift defence (as you have mentioned)
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Yes probably, but they were all over the place, every time they tried to beat it, once I can understand, but repeatedly ? Learn from your errors, and none of them covered themselves in glory, and it was pretty much West Hams only attacking option (apart from Dhino passing it straight to their player because he didn't look).
 
ninjamonkey said:
Neither goal is on him. Good attacking play didn't give him a chance with either goal. The only error today was the mix up with laporte. No idea why he came out for that though, laporte was in control and looking for a simple back pass, laporte did exceptionally well to take control and get rid.With the amount of times he comes out, mistakes are inevitable, Alisson makes at least half a dozen mistakes coming out of his box a season for comparison, that was one from ederson and thankfully it didn't cost us.

These "he needs competition" claims are bollocks, no top keeper in the world has any real competition other than at PSG. Alisson and Mendy's competition at our two closest domestic rivals can't even get a game in the cups nevermind put them under pressure in the league, neither are looking over their shoulder.

Simple fact is he cannot be perfect all the time and losing your shit everytime there's anything less than perfection is about as rag-like as it gets. He made a mistake today that thanks to laporte didn't cost us, but he makes the least amount of mistakes of any keeper and is the only keeper in the world capable of doing what Pep needs to allow us to play the way we do.
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Thank you, I have been feeling poorly today and unwisely decided to have a glance at 2021-22 performances. Thought I had gone beyond recovery reading some of the stuff here. He is not the greatest shot stopper but the "he can't stop shots" narrative is weaving its way through Bluemoon like a virus, so reading your post is a reminder that I may not have left the real world yet.
 
cleavers said:
Yes probably, but they were all over the place, every time they tried to beat it, once I can understand, but repeatedly ? Learn from your errors, and none of them covered themselves in glory, and it was pretty much West Hams only attacking option (apart from Dhino passing it straight to their player because he didn't look).
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It does happen when our first choice defenders are playing as well. That is probably down to Pep
 
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