9/11

Cheesy said:
TheIceman said:
Wow buzzer than clinton vid is scary. Too many suicides ehh?

I personally know two people who have committed suicide. How many people do you think the Clintons 'know' bearing in mind that they are two of the most powerful people on the planet? I'd be more surprised if none of their associates had committed suicide. Nothing more than coincidence in my book.

They must of all been accountants ;)
 
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhctMpvszqQ[/youtube]
Unless bin ladens a liar or he works for the CIA or the tape's a fake of course.
Below isd a list of the people who died at 9/11 on the planes + the Pentagon unless of course they are fake names just made up,the names of the terroists are pretty easy to find if you want to see them. List of Victims on American Airlines Flight 11
<a class="postlink" href="http://b3b.homestead.com/VictimsWall.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://b3b.homestead.com/VictimsWall.html</a>

Anna Allison
David Lawrence Angell
Lynn Edwards Angell
Seima Aoyama
Barbara Jean Arestegui
Myra Joy Aronson
Christine Barbuto
Carolyn Beug
Kelly Ann Booms
Carol Marie Bouchard
Robin Lynne Kaplan
Neilie Anne Heffernan Casey
Jeffrey Dwayne Collman
Jeffrey W. Coombs
Tara Kathleen Creamer
Thelma Cuccinello
Patrick Currivan
Brian Paul Dale
David Dimeglio
Donald Americo Ditullio
Alberto Dominguez
Paige Marie Farley-Hackel
Alexander Milan Filipov
Carol Ann Flyzik
Paul J. Friedman
Karleton D.B. Fyfe
Peter Alan Gay
Linda M. George
Edmund Glazer
Lisa Reinhart Gordenstein
Andrew Peter Charles Curry Green
Peter Paul Hashem
Robert Jay Hayes
Edward R. Hennessy, Jr.
John A. Hofer
Cora Hidalgo Holland
John Nicholas Humber, Jr.
Waleed Joseph Iskandar
John Charles Jenkins
Charles Edward Jones
Barbara A. Keating
David P. Kovalcin
Judith Camilla Larocque
Natalie Janis Lasden
Daniel John Lee
Daniel M. Lewin
Sara Elizabeth Low
Susan A. Mackay
Karen Ann Martin
Thomas F. McGuinness, Jr.
Christopher D. Mello
Jeffrey Peter Mladenik
Carlos Alberto Montoya
Antonio Jesus Montoya Valdes
Laura Lee Morabito
Mildred Naiman
Laurie Ann Neira
Renee Lucille Newell
Kathleen Ann Nicosia
Jacqueline June Norton
Robert Grant Norton
John Ogonowski
Betty Ann Ong
Jane M. Orth
Thomas Nicholas Pecorelli
Berinthia B. Perkins
Sonia M. Puopolo
David E. Retik
Jean Destrehan Roger
Philip Martin Rosenzweig
Richard Barry Ross
Jessica Leigh Sachs
Rahma Salie
Heather Lee Smith
Dianne Bullis Snyder
Douglas Joel Stone
Xavier Suarez
Madeline Amy Sweeney
Michael Theodoridis
James Anthony Trentini
Mary Barbara Trentini
Pendyala Vamsikrishna
Mary Alice Wahlstrom
Kenneth Waldie
John Joseph Wenckus
Candace Lee Williams
Christopher Rudolph Zarba, Jr.

List of Victims on United Airlines Flight 175

Alona Abraham
Garnet Edward Bailey
Mark Lawrence Bavis
Graham Andrew Berkeley
Touri Bolourchi
Klaus Bothe
Daniel Raymond Brandhorst
David Reed Gamboa Brandhorst
John Brett Cahill
Christoffer Mikael Carstanjen
John J. Corcoran III
Dorothy Alma de Araujo
Ana Gloria Pocasangre Debarrera
Robert John Fangman
Lisa Anne Frost
Ronald Gamboa
Lynn Catherine Goodchild
Peter M. Goodrich
Douglas Alan Gowell
Francis Edward Grogan
Carl Max Hammond, Jr.
Christine Lee Hanson
Peter Burton Hanson
Susan Kim Hanson
Gerald Francis Hardacre
Eric Hartono
James Edward Hayden
Herbert Wilson Homer
Michael Robert Horrocks
Robert Adrien Jalbert
Amy N. Jarret
Ralph Kershaw
Heinrich Kimmig
Amy R. King
Brian Kinney
Kathryn L. LaBorie
Robert G. Leblanc
Maclovio Lopez, Jr.
Marianne Macfarlane
Alfred Gilles Marchand
Louis Mariani
Juliana McCourt
Ruth Magdaline McCourt
Wolfgang Peter Menzel
Shawn M. Nassaney
Marie Pappalardo
Patrick J. Quigley IV
Frederick Charles Rimmele III
James Roux
Jesus Sanchez
Victor J. Saracini
Mary Kathleen Shearer
Robert M. Shearer
Jane Louise Simpkin
Brian David Sweeney
Michael C. Tarrou
Alicia N. Titus
Timothy Ray Ward
William Michael Weems

List of Victims at the Pentagon (Not Including Flight 77)
Note: USA – United Stated Army; USN – United States Navy

SPC Craig S. Amundson, USA
YN3 Melissa Rose Barnes, USN
MSG Max J. Beilke, Retired
IT2 Kris Romeo Bishundat, USN
Carrie R. Blagburn
COL Canfield D. Boone, ARNG
Donna M. Bowen
Allen P. Boyle
ET3 Christopher L. Burford, USN
ET3 Daniel M. Caballero, USN
SFC Jose O. Calderon-Olmedo, USA
Angelene C. Carter
Sharon A. Carver
SFC John J. Chada, USA, Retired
Rosa Maria Chapa
Julian T. Cooper
LCDR Eric A. Cranford, USN
Ada M. Davis
CAPT Gerald F. DeConto, USN
LTC Jerry D. Dickerson, USA
IT1 Johnnie Doctor, Jr., USN
CAPT Robert E. Dolan, Jr., USN
CDR William H. Donovan, USN
CDR Patrick Dunn, USN
AG1 Edward T. Earhart, USN
LCDR Robert R. Elseth, USNR
SK3 Jamie L. Fallon, USN
Amelia V. Fields
Gerald P. Fisher
AG2 Matthew M. Flocco, USN
Sandra N. Foster
CAPT Lawrence D. Getzfred, USN
Cortez Ghee
Brenda C. Gibson
COL Ronald F. Golinski, USA, Retired
Diane Hale-McKinzy
Carolyn B. Halmon
Sheila M.S. Hein
ET1 Ronald J. Hemenway, USN
MAJ Wallace Cole Hogan, Jr., USA
SSG Jimmie I. Holley, USA, Retired
Angela M. Houtz
Brady Kay Howell
Peggie M. Hurt
LTC Stephen N. Hyland, Jr., USA
Lt Col Robert J. Hymel, USAF, Retired
SGM Lacey B. Ivory, USA
LTC Dennis M. Johnson, USA
Judith L. Jones
Brenda Kegler
LT Michael S. Lamana, USN
David W. Laychak
Samantha L. Lightbourn-Allen
MAJ Stephen V. Long, USA
James T. Lynch, Jr.
Terence M. Lynch
OS2 Nehamon Lyons IV, USN
Shelley A. Marshall
Teresa M. Martin
Ada L. Mason-Acker
LTC Dean E. Mattson, USA
LTG Timothy J. Maude, USA
Robert J. Maxwell
Molly L. McKenzie
Patricia E. Mickley
MAJ Ronald D. Milam, USA
Gerard P. Moran, Jr.
Odessa V. Morris
ET1 Brian A. Moss, USN
Teddington H. Moy
LCDR Patrick J. Murphy, USNR
Khang Ngoc Nguyen
DM2 Michael A. Noeth, USN
Ruben S. Ornedo
Diana B. Padro
LT Jonas M. Panik, USNR
MAJ Clifford L. Patterson, Jr., USA
LT Darin H. Pontell, USNR
Scott Powell
CAPT Jack D. Punches, USN, Retired
AW1 Joseph J. Pycior, Jr., USN
Deborah A. Ramsaur
Rhonda Sue Rasmussen
IT1 Marsha D. Ratchford, USN
Martha M. Reszke
Cecelia E. (Lawson) Richard
Edward V. Rowenhorst
Judy Rowlett
SGM Robert E. Russell, USA, Retired
CW4 William R. Ruth, ARNG
Charles E. Sabin, Sr.
Marjorie C. Salamone
COL David M. Scales, USA
CDR Robert A. Schlegel, USN
Janice M. Scott
LTC Michael L. Selves, USA, Retired
Marian H. Serva
CDR Dan F. Shanower, USN
Antionette M. Sherman
Diane M. Simmons
Cheryle D. Sincock
ITC Gregg H. Smallwood, USN
LTC Gary F. Smith, USA, Retired
Patricia J. Statz
Edna L. Stephens
SGM Larry L. Strickland, USA
LTC Kip P. Taylor, USA
Sandra C. Taylor
LTC Karl W. Teepe, USA, Retired
SGT Tamara C. Thurman, USA
LCDR Otis V. Tolbert, USN
SSG Willie Q. Troy, USA, Retired
LCDR Ronald J. Vauk, USNR
LTC Karen J. Wagner, USA
Meta L. (Fuller) Waller
SPC Chin Sun Pak Wells, USA
SSG Maudlyn A. White, USA
Sandra L. White
Ernest M. Willcher
LCDR David L. Williams, USN
MAJ Dwayne Williams, USA
RMC Marvin Roger Woods, USN, Retired
IT2 Kevin W. Yokum, USN
ITC Donald M. Young, USN
Edmond G. Young, Jr.
Lisa L. Young

List of Victims on American Airlines Flight 77

Paul W. Ambrose
Yeneneh Betru
Mary Jane Booth
Bernard C. Brown, II
CAPT Charles F. Burlingame III, USNR, Retired
Suzanne M. Calley
William E. Caswell
David M. Charlebois
Sarah M. Clark
Asia S. Cottom
James D. Debeuneure
Rodney Dickens
Eddie A. Dillard
LCDR Charles A. Droz III, USN, Retired
Barbara G. Edwards
Charles S. Falkenberg
Dana Falkenberg
Zoe Falkenberg
J. Joseph Ferguson
Darlene E. Flagg
RADM Wilson F. Flagg, USNR, Retired
1stLt Richard P. Gabriel, USMC, Retired
Ian J. Gray
Stanley R. Hall
Michele M. Heidenberger
Bryan C. Jack
Steven D. Jacoby
Ann C. Judge
Chandler R. Keller
Yvonne E. Kennedy
Norma Cruz Khan
Karen Ann Kincaid
Dong Chul Lee
Jennifer Lewis
Kenneth E. Lewis
Renee A. May
Dora Marie Menchaca
Christopher C. Newton
Barbara K. Olson
Ruben S. Ornedo
Robert Penninger
Robert R. Ploger III
Zandra F. Ploger
Lisa J. Raines
Todd H. Reuben
John P. Sammartino
George W. Simmons
Donald D. Simmons
Mari-Rae Sopper
Robert Speisman
Norma Lang Steuerle
Hilda E. Taylor
Leonard E. Taylor
Sandra D. Teague
Leslie A. Whittington
CAPT John D. Yamnicky, Sr., USN, Retired
Vicki Yancey
Shuyin Yang
Yuguag Zheng

List of Victims on United Airlines Flight 93

Christian Adams
Lorraine G. Bay
Todd Beamer
Alan Beaven
Mark K. Bingham
Deora Frances Bodley
Sandra W. Bradshaw
Marion Britton
Thomas E. Burnett Jr.
William Cashman
Georgine Rose Corrigan
Patricia Cushing
Jason Dahl
Joseph Deluca
Patrick Driscoll
Edward Porter Felt
Jane C. Folger
Colleen Fraser
Andrew Garcia
Jeremy Glick
Lauren Grandcolas
Wanda A. Green
Donald F. Greene
Linda Gronlund
Richard Guadagno
Leroy Homer, Jr.
Toshiya Kuge
CeeCee Lyles
Hilda Marcin
Waleska Martinez
Nicole Miller
Louis J. Nacke, II
Donald Arthur Peterson
Jean Hoadley Peterson
Mark Rothenberg
Christine Snyder
John Talignani
Honor Elizabeth Wainio
Deborah Ann Jacobs Welsh
Kristin Gould White
RIP.
 
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Must have had a nose job.
And changed skin colour.
And beard colour.
 
timesprout said:
buzzer1 said:
Yes mate, you can smell it a mile away. Atta and co. were believed to be into the running of drugs through one of the airstrips that time and time again crops up on the back of wrongdoings, MENA in Arkansas holds many dark secrets and especialy from the corrupt Clintons. Try the link below anyone?



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or these poor kids


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-- Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:21 pm --




Did'nt he say that "when he seen the first plane go in", wtf, nobody seen this right?

Memory is a bit blurry but i ythink news showed a member of the publics video footage, i try not to watch it back as i just get emotional

Maybe so mate but it certainly was'nt mainstream so could not have been seen by Bush.

-- Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:16 pm --

TheIceman said:
Wow buzzer than clinton vid is scary. Too many suicides ehh?

Twats mate.

-- Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:18 pm --

Cheesy said:
TheIceman said:
Wow buzzer than clinton vid is scary. Too many suicides ehh?

I personally know two people who have committed suicide. How many people do you think the Clintons 'know' bearing in mind that they are two of the most powerful people on the planet? I'd be more surprised if none of their associates had committed suicide. Nothing more than coincidence in my book.

Yes but knowing someone or of someone and being indirectly linked is another thing, the Kevin Ives link that i put up smells to high heaven of murder.<br /><br />-- Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:20 pm --<br /><br />
bluemanc said:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhctMpvszqQ[/youtube]
Unless bin ladens a liar or he works for the CIA or the tape's a fake of course.
Below isd a list of the people who died at 9/11 on the planes + the Pentagon unless of course they are fake names just made up,the names of the terroists are pretty easy to find if you want to see them. List of Victims on American Airlines Flight 11
<a class="postlink" href="http://b3b.homestead.com/VictimsWall.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://b3b.homestead.com/VictimsWall.html</a>

Anna Allison
David Lawrence Angell
Lynn Edwards Angell
Seima Aoyama
Barbara Jean Arestegui
Myra Joy Aronson
Christine Barbuto
Carolyn Beug
Kelly Ann Booms
Carol Marie Bouchard
Robin Lynne Kaplan
Neilie Anne Heffernan Casey
Jeffrey Dwayne Collman
Jeffrey W. Coombs
Tara Kathleen Creamer
Thelma Cuccinello
Patrick Currivan
Brian Paul Dale
David Dimeglio
Donald Americo Ditullio
Alberto Dominguez
Paige Marie Farley-Hackel
Alexander Milan Filipov
Carol Ann Flyzik
Paul J. Friedman
Karleton D.B. Fyfe
Peter Alan Gay
Linda M. George
Edmund Glazer
Lisa Reinhart Gordenstein
Andrew Peter Charles Curry Green
Peter Paul Hashem
Robert Jay Hayes
Edward R. Hennessy, Jr.
John A. Hofer
Cora Hidalgo Holland
John Nicholas Humber, Jr.
Waleed Joseph Iskandar
John Charles Jenkins
Charles Edward Jones
Barbara A. Keating
David P. Kovalcin
Judith Camilla Larocque
Natalie Janis Lasden
Daniel John Lee
Daniel M. Lewin
Sara Elizabeth Low
Susan A. Mackay
Karen Ann Martin
Thomas F. McGuinness, Jr.
Christopher D. Mello
Jeffrey Peter Mladenik
Carlos Alberto Montoya
Antonio Jesus Montoya Valdes
Laura Lee Morabito
Mildred Naiman
Laurie Ann Neira
Renee Lucille Newell
Kathleen Ann Nicosia
Jacqueline June Norton
Robert Grant Norton
John Ogonowski
Betty Ann Ong
Jane M. Orth
Thomas Nicholas Pecorelli
Berinthia B. Perkins
Sonia M. Puopolo
David E. Retik
Jean Destrehan Roger
Philip Martin Rosenzweig
Richard Barry Ross
Jessica Leigh Sachs
Rahma Salie
Heather Lee Smith
Dianne Bullis Snyder
Douglas Joel Stone
Xavier Suarez
Madeline Amy Sweeney
Michael Theodoridis
James Anthony Trentini
Mary Barbara Trentini
Pendyala Vamsikrishna
Mary Alice Wahlstrom
Kenneth Waldie
John Joseph Wenckus
Candace Lee Williams
Christopher Rudolph Zarba, Jr.

List of Victims on United Airlines Flight 175

Alona Abraham
Garnet Edward Bailey
Mark Lawrence Bavis
Graham Andrew Berkeley
Touri Bolourchi
Klaus Bothe
Daniel Raymond Brandhorst
David Reed Gamboa Brandhorst
John Brett Cahill
Christoffer Mikael Carstanjen
John J. Corcoran III
Dorothy Alma de Araujo
Ana Gloria Pocasangre Debarrera
Robert John Fangman
Lisa Anne Frost
Ronald Gamboa
Lynn Catherine Goodchild
Peter M. Goodrich
Douglas Alan Gowell
Francis Edward Grogan
Carl Max Hammond, Jr.
Christine Lee Hanson
Peter Burton Hanson
Susan Kim Hanson
Gerald Francis Hardacre
Eric Hartono
James Edward Hayden
Herbert Wilson Homer
Michael Robert Horrocks
Robert Adrien Jalbert
Amy N. Jarret
Ralph Kershaw
Heinrich Kimmig
Amy R. King
Brian Kinney
Kathryn L. LaBorie
Robert G. Leblanc
Maclovio Lopez, Jr.
Marianne Macfarlane
Alfred Gilles Marchand
Louis Mariani
Juliana McCourt
Ruth Magdaline McCourt
Wolfgang Peter Menzel
Shawn M. Nassaney
Marie Pappalardo
Patrick J. Quigley IV
Frederick Charles Rimmele III
James Roux
Jesus Sanchez
Victor J. Saracini
Mary Kathleen Shearer
Robert M. Shearer
Jane Louise Simpkin
Brian David Sweeney
Michael C. Tarrou
Alicia N. Titus
Timothy Ray Ward
William Michael Weems

List of Victims at the Pentagon (Not Including Flight 77)
Note: USA – United Stated Army; USN – United States Navy

SPC Craig S. Amundson, USA
YN3 Melissa Rose Barnes, USN
MSG Max J. Beilke, Retired
IT2 Kris Romeo Bishundat, USN
Carrie R. Blagburn
COL Canfield D. Boone, ARNG
Donna M. Bowen
Allen P. Boyle
ET3 Christopher L. Burford, USN
ET3 Daniel M. Caballero, USN
SFC Jose O. Calderon-Olmedo, USA
Angelene C. Carter
Sharon A. Carver
SFC John J. Chada, USA, Retired
Rosa Maria Chapa
Julian T. Cooper
LCDR Eric A. Cranford, USN
Ada M. Davis
CAPT Gerald F. DeConto, USN
LTC Jerry D. Dickerson, USA
IT1 Johnnie Doctor, Jr., USN
CAPT Robert E. Dolan, Jr., USN
CDR William H. Donovan, USN
CDR Patrick Dunn, USN
AG1 Edward T. Earhart, USN
LCDR Robert R. Elseth, USNR
SK3 Jamie L. Fallon, USN
Amelia V. Fields
Gerald P. Fisher
AG2 Matthew M. Flocco, USN
Sandra N. Foster
CAPT Lawrence D. Getzfred, USN
Cortez Ghee
Brenda C. Gibson
COL Ronald F. Golinski, USA, Retired
Diane Hale-McKinzy
Carolyn B. Halmon
Sheila M.S. Hein
ET1 Ronald J. Hemenway, USN
MAJ Wallace Cole Hogan, Jr., USA
SSG Jimmie I. Holley, USA, Retired
Angela M. Houtz
Brady Kay Howell
Peggie M. Hurt
LTC Stephen N. Hyland, Jr., USA
Lt Col Robert J. Hymel, USAF, Retired
SGM Lacey B. Ivory, USA
LTC Dennis M. Johnson, USA
Judith L. Jones
Brenda Kegler
LT Michael S. Lamana, USN
David W. Laychak
Samantha L. Lightbourn-Allen
MAJ Stephen V. Long, USA
James T. Lynch, Jr.
Terence M. Lynch
OS2 Nehamon Lyons IV, USN
Shelley A. Marshall
Teresa M. Martin
Ada L. Mason-Acker
LTC Dean E. Mattson, USA
LTG Timothy J. Maude, USA
Robert J. Maxwell
Molly L. McKenzie
Patricia E. Mickley
MAJ Ronald D. Milam, USA
Gerard P. Moran, Jr.
Odessa V. Morris
ET1 Brian A. Moss, USN
Teddington H. Moy
LCDR Patrick J. Murphy, USNR
Khang Ngoc Nguyen
DM2 Michael A. Noeth, USN
Ruben S. Ornedo
Diana B. Padro
LT Jonas M. Panik, USNR
MAJ Clifford L. Patterson, Jr., USA
LT Darin H. Pontell, USNR
Scott Powell
CAPT Jack D. Punches, USN, Retired
AW1 Joseph J. Pycior, Jr., USN
Deborah A. Ramsaur
Rhonda Sue Rasmussen
IT1 Marsha D. Ratchford, USN
Martha M. Reszke
Cecelia E. (Lawson) Richard
Edward V. Rowenhorst
Judy Rowlett
SGM Robert E. Russell, USA, Retired
CW4 William R. Ruth, ARNG
Charles E. Sabin, Sr.
Marjorie C. Salamone
COL David M. Scales, USA
CDR Robert A. Schlegel, USN
Janice M. Scott
LTC Michael L. Selves, USA, Retired
Marian H. Serva
CDR Dan F. Shanower, USN
Antionette M. Sherman
Diane M. Simmons
Cheryle D. Sincock
ITC Gregg H. Smallwood, USN
LTC Gary F. Smith, USA, Retired
Patricia J. Statz
Edna L. Stephens
SGM Larry L. Strickland, USA
LTC Kip P. Taylor, USA
Sandra C. Taylor
LTC Karl W. Teepe, USA, Retired
SGT Tamara C. Thurman, USA
LCDR Otis V. Tolbert, USN
SSG Willie Q. Troy, USA, Retired
LCDR Ronald J. Vauk, USNR
LTC Karen J. Wagner, USA
Meta L. (Fuller) Waller
SPC Chin Sun Pak Wells, USA
SSG Maudlyn A. White, USA
Sandra L. White
Ernest M. Willcher
LCDR David L. Williams, USN
MAJ Dwayne Williams, USA
RMC Marvin Roger Woods, USN, Retired
IT2 Kevin W. Yokum, USN
ITC Donald M. Young, USN
Edmond G. Young, Jr.
Lisa L. Young

List of Victims on American Airlines Flight 77

Paul W. Ambrose
Yeneneh Betru
Mary Jane Booth
Bernard C. Brown, II
CAPT Charles F. Burlingame III, USNR, Retired
Suzanne M. Calley
William E. Caswell
David M. Charlebois
Sarah M. Clark
Asia S. Cottom
James D. Debeuneure
Rodney Dickens
Eddie A. Dillard
LCDR Charles A. Droz III, USN, Retired
Barbara G. Edwards
Charles S. Falkenberg
Dana Falkenberg
Zoe Falkenberg
J. Joseph Ferguson
Darlene E. Flagg
RADM Wilson F. Flagg, USNR, Retired
1stLt Richard P. Gabriel, USMC, Retired
Ian J. Gray
Stanley R. Hall
Michele M. Heidenberger
Bryan C. Jack
Steven D. Jacoby
Ann C. Judge
Chandler R. Keller
Yvonne E. Kennedy
Norma Cruz Khan
Karen Ann Kincaid
Dong Chul Lee
Jennifer Lewis
Kenneth E. Lewis
Renee A. May
Dora Marie Menchaca
Christopher C. Newton
Barbara K. Olson
Ruben S. Ornedo
Robert Penninger
Robert R. Ploger III
Zandra F. Ploger
Lisa J. Raines
Todd H. Reuben
John P. Sammartino
George W. Simmons
Donald D. Simmons
Mari-Rae Sopper
Robert Speisman
Norma Lang Steuerle
Hilda E. Taylor
Leonard E. Taylor
Sandra D. Teague
Leslie A. Whittington
CAPT John D. Yamnicky, Sr., USN, Retired
Vicki Yancey
Shuyin Yang
Yuguag Zheng

List of Victims on United Airlines Flight 93

Christian Adams
Lorraine G. Bay
Todd Beamer
Alan Beaven
Mark K. Bingham
Deora Frances Bodley
Sandra W. Bradshaw
Marion Britton
Thomas E. Burnett Jr.
William Cashman
Georgine Rose Corrigan
Patricia Cushing
Jason Dahl
Joseph Deluca
Patrick Driscoll
Edward Porter Felt
Jane C. Folger
Colleen Fraser
Andrew Garcia
Jeremy Glick
Lauren Grandcolas
Wanda A. Green
Donald F. Greene
Linda Gronlund
Richard Guadagno
Leroy Homer, Jr.
Toshiya Kuge
CeeCee Lyles
Hilda Marcin
Waleska Martinez
Nicole Miller
Louis J. Nacke, II
Donald Arthur Peterson
Jean Hoadley Peterson
Mark Rothenberg
Christine Snyder
John Talignani
Honor Elizabeth Wainio
Deborah Ann Jacobs Welsh
Kristin Gould White
RIP.


RIP indeed mate, but you seem convinced that they died going into the towers? i put it to you that the planes may have not even left the ground, as i said earlier.
 
What's your thinking behind this mate? I see very little in the way of hard evidence about the planes?
 
scall said:
Soulboy said:
I'm absolutely amazed at the responses on here.

Didn't ANYONE actually go to see City play that day?

I was on my way to Notts County that night for a League Cup tie, stopped off in a pub in Matlock and watched it unfold.

Absolutely shocking, but it didn't stop me heading to Meadow Lane that night!

Like I say, did no one go to Nottingham that night?

I did. Rang City before I set off, and they said just set off, as a decision hadn't been made on whether the game would go ahead. I think we were the only game that went ahead that night.

Go to the ground, and had to go into their main entrance. Everyone was silent, just watching the tv's. People were coming and going, but they'd stop, get an update, and carry on.

Surreal atmosphere. It was sombre, the goals were celebrated but half-heartedly, and to be honest, it was nice to take your mind off it. But it was surreal. Wish I'd kept my ticket from that game though.

I remember Keegan saying after the match "this game shouldn't have gone ahead, it wasn't about the football tonight" and went on to say thouands of people died that day, and some probably still were dying at that moment, and we shouldn't have played.

I remember being at work when my mate saw something on the web; he said a plane had crashed into the Twin Towers. We just assumed it was a light aircraft.

Mid-afternoon I met Steve Kay (RIP) who told me all about what he'd seen on the way to pick someone else up en route to Notts County. It wasn't until after the match when we went in a pub in the middle of a deserted Nottingham that I first saw the shocking images on the news.

I kept my ticket; it tells you to on it: "To be retained."

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I was just 12 at the time so I didn't really think it was a huge thing. But now looking back on it, it's shaped the history of America. Whenever America is mentioned, people either think 9/11 or Twin Towers or they say it. Shame really.

Also, I find documentaries on 9/11 incredibly interesting. Infact, I find documentaries on all past historical events interesting. It's my TV soft spot.
 
skillman said:
I was just 12 at the time so I didn't really think it was a huge thing. But now looking back on it, it's shaped the history of America. Whenever America is mentioned, people either think 9/11 or Twin Towers or they say it. Shame really.

Also, I find documentaries on 9/11 incredibly interesting. Infact, I find documentaries on all past historical events interesting. It's my TV soft spot.

Ya I was about the same, a bit younger, remember us coming in from lunch I think it was at school and one of the teachers runs up to our teacher and tells her, well what I thought was, to trains hit the twin towers, obviously they weren't trains.

I knew how bad it was but I didn't quiet grasp just how big of incident it was, and I think looking back, even at all the documentaries that were on the other night, I think one of the things that really stands out for me, that I didn't get at the time, was the God honest pure bravery of the first responders, and looking at one or two of the docs from last night, 9/11 hotel, or whatever it was called, how deeply it impacted them.
The people who died in the towers who were there working or whatever, or those who died on the plane, it was a terrible thing to happen and pure bad luck, but the cops and firefighters and co weren't there, but went simply to do their jobs, running towards it when the whole city was running from it.
Some really interesting stats here..

<a class="postlink" href="http://nymag.com/news/articles/wtc/1year/numbers.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://nymag.com/news/articles/wtc/1year/numbers.htm</a>

343 firefighters killed, 343 people just doing their job, along with hundreds of others.
But what is more interesting is the knock on effects from it, the illness, the retirements.

274 retired in 01 after it, 661 a year later in 02.

Number of firefighters on leave for respiratory problems by January 2002: 300

That's a whole lot of pain and grief, that isn't yet over with to this day as we are still seeing the aftermath form, many rescue workers suffer from respiratory problems, cancer.etc all related to inhaling all that crap down at ground zero.
 
Damocles said:
What's your thinking behind this mate? I see very little in the way of hard evidence about the planes?


If you mean me mate.....

Well there were witnesses that say the plane DID NOT look like a commercial airliner(see pentagon also for this), everybody seems to have ovrlooked the possibility that the plane may have been switched and the people replaced with high explosives, fuel etc, just a thought.
 
In all honesty, I really don't think all of these conspiracy theories have much truth. I mean yeah, the US government might have had some idea that something was gonna go down, and they probably could have done more about it. But I'm talking about all the stuff about it being an inside job and how it was done deliberately by the government.
If it really was an inside job, I don't think some American college students (the guys who made "Loose Change") would have been the first to figure it out. Also, I think that if they were, somehow, the first to figure it all out, they would have gone "missing" soon after. I mean, if the US gov't were responsible for the deaths of the near 3,000 poor souls that day, then surely a couple more wouldn't be a big problem for them? Thats just my views on it anyway...

Here's a good page on the subject
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons
 
buzzer1 said:
Damocles said:
What's your thinking behind this mate? I see very little in the way of hard evidence about the planes?


If you mean me mate.....

Well there were witnesses that say the plane DID NOT look like a commercial airliner(see pentagon also for this), everybody seems to have ovrlooked the possibility that the plane may have been switched and the people replaced with high explosives, fuel etc, just a thought.

buzzer, I don't know you but missed you when you were gone as you sometimes raise interesting points.
Sorry pal but if you believe every conspiracy you devalue the ones that do have, at least some, credibility.
 
lloydie said:
buzzer1 said:
If you mean me mate.....

Well there were witnesses that say the plane DID NOT look like a commercial airliner(see pentagon also for this), everybody seems to have ovrlooked the possibility that the plane may have been switched and the people replaced with high explosives, fuel etc, just a thought.

buzzer, I don't know you but missed you when you were gone as you sometimes raise interesting points.
Sorry pal but if you believe every conspiracy you devalue the ones that do have, at least some, credibility.
<br /><br />-- Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:20 pm --<br /><br />
lloydie said:
buzzer1 said:
If you mean me mate.....

Well there were witnesses that say the plane DID NOT look like a commercial airliner(see pentagon also for this), everybody seems to have ovrlooked the possibility that the plane may have been switched and the people replaced with high explosives, fuel etc, just a thought.

buzzer, I don't know you but missed you when you were gone as you sometimes raise interesting points.
Sorry pal but if you believe every conspiracy you devalue the ones that do have, at least some, credibility.
 
lloydie said:
buzzer1 said:
If you mean me mate.....

Well there were witnesses that say the plane DID NOT look like a commercial airliner(see pentagon also for this), everybody seems to have ovrlooked the possibility that the plane may have been switched and the people replaced with high explosives, fuel etc, just a thought.

buzzer, I don't know you but missed you when you were gone as you sometimes raise interesting points.
Sorry pal but if you believe every conspiracy you devalue the ones that do have, at least some, credibility.


Nice one lloydie lad, hope yer well. Tbh mate, i say anything is possible and it would'nt be the first time that the US have planned on bombing their own people and doing a False Flag job, its happened right through the ages inc. the poor backward Jewish lad that was paraded in front on the world for burning the Reichstag when infact it was a false flag and just a blag to give Hitler and his men some credence to attack the Jews(yes i know that was'nt the yanks but they was indirectly involved imo, but thats another story), for this see countless False Flag operations inc. IMHO 9/11. How these people died on 9/11 well i'm afraid only the dark suits know this, i mean, how the fuk does anyone know that there was anyone on board, the rabbit hole is bottomless, the poor bastards may still be alive and being used as guineapigs in some underground human lab., mad as it sounds but how the fuk do any of us know.
 
buzzer1 said:
Nice one lloydie lad, hope yer well. Tbh mate, i say anything is possible and it would'nt be the first time that the US have planned on bombing their own people and doing a False Flag job, its happened right through the ages inc. the poor backward Jewish lad that was paraded in front on the world for burning the Reichstag when infact it was a false flag and just a blag to give Hitler and his men some credence to attack the Jews
Think you're getting mixed up there buzzer.

It was a Jewish lad who shot the German diplomat Ernst von Rath in Paris but a (non-Jewish) Dutch Communist (Marinus van der Lubbe) who set fire to the Reichstag. There seems to be little doubt that he was involved.

The Germans did allegedly undertake a false flag operation in September 1939, sending troops in Polish uniform into Poland who then attacked German troops, in order to provide a pretext for the invasion that started the war.

It wouldn't surprise me with 9/11 if the US, Saudis and possibly Israelis knew what was about to happen. All of them had something to gain from it.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
buzzer1 said:
Nice one lloydie lad, hope yer well. Tbh mate, i say anything is possible and it would'nt be the first time that the US have planned on bombing their own people and doing a False Flag job, its happened right through the ages inc. the poor backward Jewish lad that was paraded in front on the world for burning the Reichstag when infact it was a false flag and just a blag to give Hitler and his men some credence to attack the Jews
Think you're getting mixed up there buzzer.

It was a Jewish lad who shot the German diplomat Ernst von Rath in Paris but a (non-Jewish) Dutch Communist (Marinus van der Lubbe) who set fire to the Reichstag. There seems to be little doubt that he was involved.

The Germans did allegedly undertake a false flag operation in September 1939, sending troops in Polish uniform into Poland who then attacked German troops, in order to provide a pretext for the invasion that started the war.

It wouldn't surprise me with 9/11 if the US, Saudis and possibly Israelis knew what was about to happen. All of them had something to gain from it.

Yes sorry kid, my slight. However, only after torture did Lubbe confess and in any event it catapulted AH to basicly green light status, he was after hangin' the commies but got vetoed, however all agrred that he should take complete power. I knew(well my take on it anyway :)) quite a bit about this stuff a while back but as i'm trying to maintain good and positive energy(hence my BM 3 mnth break, no bad vibes) i give this sort of stuff a wide berth, i fully belive the posts that i have written in the past but it's nice just to sit back and observe. Something that i have never understood though is that we are called conspiracists but it is the twats that are conspiring against us, by way of lie after lie, so how can we be the conspiracists? i don't get it.
 
is it really that impossible to believe that what has been documented as happening is in fact what actually happened

for me these other theories are as sad as claiming that the holocaust did not happen and solely driven by peoples political agendas
 
Balti said:
is it really that impossible to believe that what has been documented as happening is in fact what actually happened

for me these other theories are as sad as claiming that the holocaust did not happen and solely driven by peoples political agendas


Oh come on Balti, to equate the Holocaust which actualy happened to 9/11 which happened yes, but who, what, why is what people are asking, blatant holes in the so called truth that just do not stack up, nobody is denying it happened but i will put this to you;

Can you 100% tell me that A) it was in no way a false flag job?

and B) the planes that went in were actualy loaded with passengers?

Just a simple yes or no mate.

PS, political agendas mate? i hate the fukin lot of 'em, i have zero political allegiance. :)
 
buzzer1 said:
Balti said:
is it really that impossible to believe that what has been documented as happening is in fact what actually happened

for me these other theories are as sad as claiming that the holocaust did not happen and solely driven by peoples political agendas


Oh come on Balti, to equate the Holocaust which actualy happened to 9/11 which happened yes, but who, what, why is what people are asking, blatant holes in the so called truth that just do not stack up, nobody is denying it happened but i will put this to you;

Can you 100% tell me that A) it was in no way a false flag job?

and B) the planes that went in were actualy loaded with passengers?

Just a simple yes or no mate.

PS, political agendas mate? i hate the fukin lot of 'em, i have zero political allegiance. :)

A) Possible yes. Likely no.
B) No chance- I do not believe for one moment that all the many devastated family interviews are actually actors reading scripts but they have somehow managed to keep it all shtum since
 
Balti said:
buzzer1 said:
Oh come on Balti, to equate the Holocaust which actualy happened to 9/11 which happened yes, but who, what, why is what people are asking, blatant holes in the so called truth that just do not stack up, nobody is denying it happened but i will put this to you;

Can you 100% tell me that A) it was in no way a false flag job?

and B) the planes that went in were actualy loaded with passengers?

Just a simple yes or no mate.

PS, political agendas mate? i hate the fukin lot of 'em, i have zero political allegiance. :)

A) Possible yes. Likely no.
B) No chance- I do not believe for one moment that all the many devastated family interviews are actually actors reading scripts but they have somehow managed to keep it all shtum since

With the amount of people who would be needed to cover this up, don't you think at least a couple people would have come forward and leaked information buzzer?
 
Balti said:
buzzer1 said:
Oh come on Balti, to equate the Holocaust which actualy happened to 9/11 which happened yes, but who, what, why is what people are asking, blatant holes in the so called truth that just do not stack up, nobody is denying it happened but i will put this to you;

Can you 100% tell me that A) it was in no way a false flag job?

and B) the planes that went in were actualy loaded with passengers?

Just a simple yes or no mate.

PS, political agendas mate? i hate the fukin lot of 'em, i have zero political allegiance. :)

A) Possible yes. Likely no.
B) No chance- I do not believe for one moment that all the many devastated family interviews are actually actors reading scripts but they have somehow managed to keep it all shtum since

What do you mean, keep it shtum? no mate, the grieving families have not and will not ever see their loved ones again, that i have no doubt, my question was infact where they even on the plane that went in? military jet rigged up as a commercial airliner? killed on the plane before it took off? not killed at all but are now having experiments perforned on them ie mind control and part of the MK Ultra experiment? i don't know this, do you?
 

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