A good balanced view on Kaka

sidneydabluemooner

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Just found this on Football365.com - nice 2 know not every 1 is running 4 cover


Actually, Kaka Is Decent Value...
Firstly, as a neutral (Spurs) I'm in favour for two reasons:

1. we get a fantastic player in the premier league
2. he's going to a team that is not currently in the big four

I can't see (if you ignore the money) why this won't improve the league.

On the money point specifically, calm down everyone, the world won't end, every player won't get silly sums of money - footballers won't be (any more) disconnected from the Proles than they are at the minute. The fact remains, how many players in the world can command a fee like Kaka? Ronaldo, maybe - but like Torres there is no buy-out quoted. Villa's buyout is the same 150m Euro that Messi's is. But after that, who else today commands that sort of blockbuster fee? I think the fact that you can count these guys on one hand should be reassuring.

On salary, I think £13m a year is good value. It's nothing like the $22m ($120m inc endorsements) a year paid to Tiger woods, its about par with NBA heroes such as Kobe ($19m), Shaq ($20m) and Lebron ($12m). Its well below MLB heroes such as Jeter ($30m) and A-Rod ($30m). Kaka is a "franchise player" in the same way that Ronaldo, Villa and Messi are - i.e. they make teams (Milan have been living off him alone for years now).

Wenger is right and wrong at the same time, he is right that the fee is an anomaly in the inflating prices in a depressed market. But, he is wrong because that is precisely what the £30m a year income the "big 4" have been earning annually from the champions league has been doing. Why do you think a club as severely indebted as Man Utd can still go and sp**k £30m on one player without missing a beat? His arguments that clubs should fund themselves via turnover fall on deaf ears here because, the Champions League money has been artificially making the "big 4" teams much stronger than the rest of the teams in the Premiership for years. A bit of artificial help at Citeh is a good "balancing" influence.
 
sidneydabluemooner said:
Just found this on Football365.com - nice 2 know not every 1 is running 4 cover


Actually, Kaka Is Decent Value...
Firstly, as a neutral (Spurs) I'm in favour for two reasons:

1. we get a fantastic player in the premier league
2. he's going to a team that is not currently in the big four

I can't see (if you ignore the money) why this won't improve the league.

On the money point specifically, calm down everyone, the world won't end, every player won't get silly sums of money - footballers won't be (any more) disconnected from the Proles than they are at the minute. The fact remains, how many players in the world can command a fee like Kaka? Ronaldo, maybe - but like Torres there is no buy-out quoted. Villa's buyout is the same 150m Euro that Messi's is. But after that, who else today commands that sort of blockbuster fee? I think the fact that you can count these guys on one hand should be reassuring.

On salary, I think £13m a year is good value. It's nothing like the $22m ($120m inc endorsements) a year paid to Tiger woods, its about par with NBA heroes such as Kobe ($19m), Shaq ($20m) and Lebron ($12m). Its well below MLB heroes such as Jeter ($30m) and A-Rod ($30m). Kaka is a "franchise player" in the same way that Ronaldo, Villa and Messi are - i.e. they make teams (Milan have been living off him alone for years now).

Wenger is right and wrong at the same time, he is right that the fee is an anomaly in the inflating prices in a depressed market. But, he is wrong because that is precisely what the £30m a year income the "big 4" have been earning annually from the champions league has been doing. Why do you think a club as severely indebted as Man Utd can still go and sp**k £30m on one player without missing a beat? His arguments that clubs should fund themselves via turnover fall on deaf ears here because, the Champions League money has been artificially making the "big 4" teams much stronger than the rest of the teams in the Premiership for years. A bit of artificial help at Citeh is a good "balancing" influence.
Good post IMO.It also drives home reason why the big 4 and suporters of the big 4 are running round like headless chickens in a panic..The big 4 should have done buisness based on not getting into the champions league.This for me IS the real reason for all this "how dare you wickle ol City"type stuff.and to add to that ,by pumping large amounts into clubs outside the big 4 in the English prem ,makes this whole thing a bigger threat for them-They should grow up and except FOOTBALL IS A SPORT and they can;t carry on winning stuff year in year out,its bores the pants off the fans outside the foursome,its crap,its predictable,its making numbers up,its fighting religation,its without dreams,it draws the same foursome arse lickin TV pundits all the time.
 
Good post.

Personally I would like to see the teams qualifying for the CL getting max £10m for that competition and the remaining £80m payouts spread out through the divisions, PL 54m (£3m each), Fizzy pop £16m (£500k each), L1 £7m and L2 £3m.

This would spread out the wealth, gives other teams a chance at getting the better players and improves the finances of the entire league setup at the same time. I'd be for this even if City were to qualify for the CL in the near future.
 

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