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Marvin

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Quality post from Villa Talk
Ah yes the clairvoyants are out again, predicting the ill-fated demise of Manchester City and their evil brand of mercenary football!

I wonder if the same people(if alive) will be saying the same in 30 years time when City have forged a history greater than any other and are still challenging for silverware. Equipped with flat cap & thermos (or futuristic equivalents) firing off anecdotes of where it all went wrong.

It wasn't so long ago that people on here were claiming City would never win the title before their rich owners 'got bored'. Waxing lyrical how Man Utd did it the 'correct' way that we should follow, by 'blooding their youth' which in reality is defined as Beckham, Scholes & Giggs, the rest they bought. In fact their team now is still more expensive than City's and some were bought a while back, without inflation.

This didn't start with Man City, in fact they are rather a comfort (to me at least) that the mould can actually be broken, although that is looking less likely to ever happen again with the Financial 'Fair' Player rules which people, again, think will be the bane of City(noticing a trend here?) when in fact all that will be accomplished in essence, is solidifying the assets already in place i.e.. the top 4/5. It's little wonder the top clubs have been so agreeable about it and somehow the smaller clubs (and the average ignoramus) have been fooled into thinking it's somehow a good thing for football? I despair.

Then there are the people, who quite remarkably, would be FOR a 'Super League' to get rid of those pagan assholes so we can go back to 1960! (where curiously, players still left for bigger clubs with more money). There's just one minor drawback, money would dry up and nobody would watch it anymore. Moreover any, however fanciful and unlikely, aspirations and dreams that still remain for smaller clubs breaking into the top flight would be masticated, since they will never achieve 'top flight' in effect and neither would we. Probably THE worst thing that could happen and it's unfathomable that some claim this wouldn't be catastrophic, much less want it to happen.

The opinion that really riles me above all others though, is this notion of 'the right way' to do things. The CORRECT way as if this is kind of medical procedure with one definitive approach. It's ok for us to take some players off teams less fortunate than our own, but when city takes a player off us it's outrageous, money has ruined everything! Get a hold of yourselves. Should we just block transfers altogether? Be able to field just those from Birmingham and play County football instead and pull in some astronomical cricket crowds perhaps. This has been going on for half a century, and it's all too easy to blame 'Sky's Football'. It's a popular sport yet some want to make it less popular to satisfy their demands.

Yes it's about money, yes i'd take any properly reviewed bid by a multi-billionaire in a heartbeat. Any who wouldn't take an opportunity like that with open arms because of their skewed sense of morality (in the entertainment industry) should stop following Villa and football as a whole rather than just threaten to do so. The bubble isn't bursting in our lifetimes so go and watch Tom Daley jump off a board instead or something.

I'd much rather our league stayed how it is to be honest, it's a good thing and we should all learn to appreciate it before people with money start looking elsewhere (which has begun already) because of our nonsensical stipulations and high taxes. I would rather the Russian League wasn't the 'one to watch' thank you very much. We compete in the best league in the world however cliche it is to say, it's the truth. I still enjoy watching the villa compete in it no matter how futile some would consider it to be.
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Interesting topic on Villa Talk titled "Doing a man city"

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.villatalk.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=73538" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.villatalk.com/index.php?name ... ic&t=73538</a>

Interesting reading the views of another club
 
Marvin said:
Quality post from Villa Talk
Ah yes the clairvoyants are out again, predicting the ill-fated demise of Manchester City and their evil brand of mercenary football!

I wonder if the same people(if alive) will be saying the same in 30 years time when City have forged a history greater than any other and are still challenging for silverware. Equipped with flat cap & thermos (or futuristic equivalents) firing off anecdotes of where it all went wrong.

It wasn't so long ago that people on here were claiming City would never win the title before their rich owners 'got bored'. Waxing lyrical how Man Utd did it the 'correct' way that we should follow, by 'blooding their youth' which in reality is defined as Beckham, Scholes & Giggs, the rest they bought. In fact their team now is still more expensive than City's and some were bought a while back, without inflation.

This didn't start with Man City, in fact they are rather a comfort (to me at least) that the mould can actually be broken, although that is looking less likely to ever happen again with the Financial 'Fair' Player rules which people, again, think will be the bane of City(noticing a trend here?) when in fact all that will be accomplished in essence, is solidifying the assets already in place i.e.. the top 4/5. It's little wonder the top clubs have been so agreeable about it and somehow the smaller clubs (and the average ignoramus) have been fooled into thinking it's somehow a good thing for football? I despair.

Then there are the people, who quite remarkably, would be FOR a 'Super League' to get rid of those pagan assholes so we can go back to 1960! (where curiously, players still left for bigger clubs with more money). There's just one minor drawback, money would dry up and nobody would watch it anymore. Moreover any, however fanciful and unlikely, aspirations and dreams that still remain for smaller clubs breaking into the top flight would be masticated, since they will never achieve 'top flight' in effect and neither would we. Probably THE worst thing that could happen and it's unfathomable that some claim this wouldn't be catastrophic, much less want it to happen.

The opinion that really riles me above all others though, is this notion of 'the right way' to do things. The CORRECT way as if this is kind of medical procedure with one definitive approach. It's ok for us to take some players off teams less fortunate than our own, but when city takes a player off us it's outrageous, money has ruined everything! Get a hold of yourselves. Should we just block transfers altogether? Be able to field just those from Birmingham and play County football instead and pull in some astronomical cricket crowds perhaps. This has been going on for half a century, and it's all too easy to blame 'Sky's Football'. It's a popular sport yet some want to make it less popular to satisfy their demands.

Yes it's about money, yes i'd take any properly reviewed bid by a multi-billionaire in a heartbeat. Any who wouldn't take an opportunity like that with open arms because of their skewed sense of morality (in the entertainment industry) should stop following Villa and football as a whole rather than just threaten to do so. The bubble isn't bursting in our lifetimes so go and watch Tom Daley jump off a board instead or something.

I'd much rather our league stayed how it is to be honest, it's a good thing and we should all learn to appreciate it before people with money start looking elsewhere (which has begun already) because of our nonsensical stipulations and high taxes. I would rather the Russian League wasn't the 'one to watch' thank you very much. We compete in the best league in the world however cliche it is to say, it's the truth. I still enjoy watching the villa compete in it no matter how futile some would consider it to be.
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Wow. (stands up and applauds that it's not just us and Martin Samuel that has the intelligence to realise what is going on)

Someone should let whichever Villa fan posted that... that it's brilliant.

Well spotted Marvin.
 
right up there with our very own star blogmaster Lucky Toma.
Glad to see it's not just city fans that see through the lies about "the right way" that the rags do business.
Another crack in the wall of lies.
 
Living in Birmingham, I can tell you that the majority of Villa fans do not share this view at all- they are bitter and jealous about our success.

However, rather than admitting this, they pretend to think that what we are doing financially is 'morally wrong', but when I ask them if they would turn down the ownership of a billionaire owner they say of course they wouldn't.

Funny that.
 
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