Additional time

[waspish]

Right. Where's that written? Sorry I must have missed something

Pep mentioned the 45 second for every goal scored and it's common knowledge it's 30 seconds for each sub!

You can't find referees rules online or anywhere in text! So it's all whatever the referee decides then!

Typical chaos by the way authorities treat paying fans! Premier and the fa as well all seem to be outdated and reactionary...

 

[SWP's back]

So why don’t they just work with that then.

How do you mean? You want to add on 35 mins injury time?

 

[Gone for a Burton]

Oh I do agree that there should be an independent time keeper who stops the clock when the ball is out of play, and when the clock hits 90:00 the game is finished.

Imo, added added time only favours the time wasting teams in tight games....like yesterday.

If City are winning 3,4,5 clear, an extra 6 minutes of playing time may see us score again but the result was already beyond reasonable doubt.

The extra 6 minutes increases the risk of fatigue injuries for our squad that may have to play 70 intense games (+ Internationals) from August to June.

In tight games, as we saw yesterday,the abnormal added added time gives a losing team a 'punchers chance,' one last wild swing or a fluke double deflection own goal to save themselves,despite being the team that MAY have been wasting time .

It appears contrarian to penalise a winning team, playing an open game, by extending a time advantage to a losing team, playing time wasting tactics.

Under last seasons rules City would've won the CS 1-0 with a wonderful 'pure' goal,and Arse Bottom Bottlers double deflected fluke,after 101 minutes, wouldn't have happened.

Anyhow oop, I've got City down for a 1-0 win and, out of sympathy for LegoHead and the Tarquin Latte lovers, we've let them keep the plate to clean for us cos our cabinets are full of proper trophies !!

It shows how far the Arse Bottom Bottles have fallen that yesterday was their biggest game for yonks.

City fans made it a family,kids and friends day out,allowing thousands who can't get tickets at the 'sold out' Etihad the opportunity to watch the Treble Winners at our second home,whilst our 'first team' of 55000 had a day off.

City's 'second team' of 32500 yesterday was higher than the TOTAL Arse Bottom Bottlers turn out at the new library when we destroyed them 0 - 3 .

At the end of that game the 4 or 5000 arse holes left were crying and booing simultaneously, something only an entitled,deluded,pompous but fragile Tarquin has so far mastered.

Fuck em all dryly !!

 

[waspish]

My mind can’t figure out how anyone could conclude this has been brought in to use against us.

We will probably benefit more than not. It’s a perfect opportunity to get our GD as high as possible, by scoring when teams are dead on their feet against us.

You watched us last season we seemed to shut up shop play the game out with our possession!

 

[BlueMonkey79]

If you think that if say, Luton Town, had been bus parking and time wasting all game and had gotten to the 90th minute at 0-0 would be happy to then see that they have to defend out another 10 minutes… then I don’t know what to tell you but you can’t have watched much football. When have you ever seen a team defending for their lives happy with more added time? Am I living in a parallel universe?

Look at yesterday. Those extra 4 minutes benefited Arsenal.

Like a lot have said. City don't normally need injury time as the job is usually done. If a team like Everton for example get through 90 minutes one nil down and fancy it, another 10 minutes is enough. Our players aren't immune to tiredness.

Even Pep has criticised the new added time law./rule.

It won't last long. As soon as Liverpool and united start conceding 96th minute goals it will be binned.

 

[JewelZee]

You missed a crucial point in this that blows an absolutely enormous hole in your argument.

Out of those 28 games we were winning, there were only 4 where we were only leading by one goal going into stoppage time.

So by your own numbers, there were 10 games where we were chasing the game and badly needed a goal. There were only 4 games where we had a realistic chance of fumbling a winning position. Because when was the last time we dropped a two goal lead? That would have been enormously advantageous to us.

If this rule was in place last season we would have almost certainly had 4-6 more points because we’d have had a minimum of 40 extra minutes of football to overturn deficits or find a winner. And the chances of us fumbling results in the 4 we were leading by a narrow margin is very small, given we are way more likely to score than our opposition from winning positions.

The fact remains this is the second time we've had to deal with this type of extended additional time in recent memory and both times it blew up in our faces, yesterday and Brentford at home during the past season. I don't know if the odds truly favor us in these situations as you say but I do know in the 10 games where we were chasing a goal the result changed only once and not in our favor in the aforementioned Brentford match. 4 games remained 1 goal losses and the other 5 remained draws.

That said, nothing you are saying would discourage teams from time wasting against us. Also, having to be ahead by 2 goals or more at the 90 minute mark 24 times in 38 games is far from a high probability occurrence that would support your position going forward.

Also, what are the odds of someone overcoming a 2 goal deficit in 3 to 5 minutes vs. 10 to 12? That may never happen but it certainly does nothing for us.

You can like this new approach but I'll remain against it as I don't see it as anything beneficial to us.

 

[SWP's back]

Not at all, set a 80 minutes or less time limit but measure it properly

That’s been touted by the powers that be but fan groups immediately poo poo’d it and they’re very reticent to change the laws of the game on game length. The most they’d do based on data is 60 minute games (30 and 30) as that’s literally the most time in play any game gets at present and historically.

 

[SWP's back]

The fact remains this is the second time we've had to deal with this type of extended additional time in recent memory and both times it blew up in our faces, yesterday and Brentford at home during the past season. I don't know if the odds truly favor us in these situations as you say but I do know in the 10 games where we were chasing a goal the result changed only once and not in our favor in the aforementioned Brentford match. 4 games remained 1 goal losses and the other 5 remained draws.

That said, nothing you are saying would discourage teams from time wasting against us. Also, having to be ahead by 2 goals or more at the 90 minute mark 24 times in 38 games is far from a high probability occurrence that would support your position going forward.

Also, what are the odds of someone overcoming a 2 goal deficit in 3 to 5 minutes vs. 10 to 12? That may never happen but it certainly does nothing for us.

You can like this new approach but I'll remain against it as I don't see it as anything beneficial to us.

That’s because you’re twisting facts round corners to suit your opinion.

 

[JewelZee]

We

We Already know it's bent. From top to bottom. Not just time added on. We commit a 50/50 foul and our player is carded immediately. Whereas the opposing team commit foul after foul after foul until the card is brandished.

Opposing Teams keepers constantly take an age with goalkicks, sometimes from the first 5 minutes of the game, whereas Ederson is booked on the first instance he does it.

It will be interesting to see these new added on time rules and kicking the ball away cards. We should have a bit more of an understanding how it's going to pan out, after watching us play on Friday then the scousers and united on Sunday/Monday..

I guarantee these new laws/rules will be applied differently.

After our historical treble winning season, the anyone but City campaign will be running at full tilt.

It's at full throttle overdrive as we speak...

 

[Bigga]

I think what this shows is that our players need to press forward our advantage in possession quicker to avoid potential "time wasting" (whatever that means) for the opposition, allowing them to get back in the game.

That means finding our strikers better or more shots at goal.

It's nice that we suffocate teams to death, but it's often with a smaller margin the further into the season we go.

These rules changes should mean nowt to us IF we play to our strengths to combat those changes.