Adebayor to Spurs

lionheart said:
Rather worrying...
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You're worried when a journo embellishes the future of a London club? hehe
 
SWP's back said:
lionheart said:
Rather worrying...
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Lewis backed spurs to win the prem last december. The pillock hasn't a clue.

Be that as it may... giving them Adebayor and paying upwards to 100k a week for it is just madness.

Adebayor suits the kind of football Spurs play perfectly.
 
avoidconfusion said:
SWP's back said:
lionheart said:
Rather worrying...
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Lewis backed spurs to win the prem last december. The pillock hasn't a clue.

Be that as it may... giving them Adebayor and paying upwards to 100k a week for it is just madness.

Adebayor suits the kind of football Spurs play perfectly.
So that everyone get's the message because it's fucking true to the T.

Ian Ladyman has reported that us paying part of his wages, is bollocks.

He can't play against us so why fret? Spurs can make fourth, and at a very push with the squad they have and a few miracles, 3rd.

It's kind of a dirty benefit, because Spurs with Adebayor will take points from our competitors. That's without a doubt.
 
avoidconfusion said:
SWP's back said:
lionheart said:
Rather worrying...
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Lewis backed spurs to win the prem last december. The pillock hasn't a clue.

Be that as it may... giving them Adebayor and paying upwards to 100k a week for it is just madness.

Adebayor suits the kind of football Spurs play perfectly.

Ladyman, who along with Samuel, are the only only journos "in" at City has made it clear that City are briefing that they will not be paying any of his wage. I believe him whatever anyone else says on this.
 
BlueJill said:
sbm said:
sniff said:
I lose a little faith in common sense every time i read this thread....

Some people need to stop giving opinion as fact, or correct..

In simple terms even paying half of Ade's wage bill will be great for our FFP forecast.

His wage's do not count against us because his deal was in 2010, but the loan fee and the % of salary they pay will all be classed as income. So £5m wage saving + the £2m fee, £7m towards FFP compliance.... It really is that simple, and what the entire deal is about.

Forget helping Tottenham, if they are still our rival then we are in trouble.
I would like to be reassured that UEFA would not deem this to be an attempt to get round the FFP rules. But if is a fact - and not just your opinion - then it is decisive for me (given the absence of other suitors).

Getting your uncle to name your stadium may be "getting round the FFP rules". Loaning a player to another club is as clean as it comes. There is nothing wrong with making deals with FFP in mind. The fact that this is a deal with a competitor makes this completely above board.
There is clearly not a problem with loaning a player per se. The issue is the precise way in which the player is paid. On the one hand, City and Spurs could each pay £90,000 per week to Adebayor. On the other, City could pay Adebayor £180,000 and Spurs could then pay City £90,000 per week. If the latter would be standard procedure, then obviously UEFA could not possibly raise an objection. But if it would be standard procedure for Spurs to pay Adebayor directly, then UEFA might be concerned by a switch to the latter procedure if it perceived it to be designed purely to circumvent the rules. Obviously the 'related-party transaction' rule is irrelevant. My concern was whether there might conceivably be some general provision that "clubs are expected to act within the spirit of the rules", a provision which could be taken into account in the inevitably subjective assessment by a UEFA panel of whether a particular club has been genuinely attempting to comply with the rules.

Having said all that, your post does further reassure me. In fact, I had posted even before my reply to 'sniff' that such a loan being profitable for us under the FFP rules was the only way I could rationalize such a loan deal. And I do believe we are run by a management team that is rational and that has the FFP rules firmly in mind. As Garry Cook said: “Clearly our intention is to comply. FFP is on our conscience. We talk about it at every board meeting and it’s part of our long-term plan.”

But all this does raise the interesting possibility (which I know others have raised before) of a bilateral loan deal involving Tevez and Sneijder. City continue to pay the salary of £X to Tevez. Inter continue to pay the salary of £Y to Sneijder. Inter pay City £X for loaning them Tevez. City pay Inter £Y for loaning them Sneijder. Eureka...two clubs clearly worried about FFP arrive at a very nice arrangement. In fact, why stop at swapping just these two players? Other players could be swapped on a purely temporary basis, particularly if it was deemed beneficial for particular players (purchased before the key date) to have the experience of playing in another league.

What would the EUFA accountants and economists make of that?
 
Sick of hearing "he will help them take points of our rivals". These points along with the points he will help them get against the shit teams will put them close to us and there are only four places up for grabs which will be contested by at least 6 teams. This prospective loan deal is lunacy and could very well bite us in the arse.
 
jjeangi said:
So that everyone get's the message because it's fucking true to the T.

Ian Ladyman has reported that us paying part of his wages, is bollocks.

He can't play against us so why fret? Spurs can make fourth, and at a very push with the squad they have and a few miracles, 3rd.

It's kind of a dirty benefit, because Spurs with Adebayor will take points from our competitors. That's without a doubt.

So he cannot help them get points of us... big deal... unfortunately that's only 2 games, with 36 more to go where he can help them get points...
 
avoidconfusion said:
jjeangi said:
So that everyone get's the message because it's fucking true to the T.

Ian Ladyman has reported that us paying part of his wages, is bollocks.

He can't play against us so why fret? Spurs can make fourth, and at a very push with the squad they have and a few miracles, 3rd.

It's kind of a dirty benefit, because Spurs with Adebayor will take points from our competitors. That's without a doubt.

So he cannot help them get points of us... big deal... unfortunately that's only 2 games, with 36 more to go where he can help them get points...
You're seriously shitting yourself over Adebayor going to Spurs?
 
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News:
Harry Redknapp has admitted he could sell Luka Modric and improve his Spurs side with the cash from the midfielder's sale.

get modric and use adebayor as part of the deal???
 
Big Dave Watson said:
Sick of hearing "he will help them take points of our rivals". These points along with the points he will help them get against the shit teams will put them close to us and there are only four places up for grabs which will be contested by at least 6 teams. This prospective loan deal is lunacy and could very well bite us in the arse.

Excactly..Adebayawn could get nowt against the top teams home and away yet score against the rest ( possible 12 teams) home and away giving spuds wins in all these.
3points home and away against 12 teams is 72 points for christs sake..
not good business at all.
Nothing is impossible in football.
 
samharris said:
Big Dave Watson said:
Sick of hearing "he will help them take points of our rivals". These points along with the points he will help them get against the shit teams will put them close to us and there are only four places up for grabs which will be contested by at least 6 teams. This prospective loan deal is lunacy and could very well bite us in the arse.

Excactly..Adebayawn could get nowt against the top teams home and away yet score against the rest ( possible 12 teams) home and away giving spuds wins in all these.
3points home and away against 12 teams is 72 points for christs sake..
not good business at all.
Nothing is impossible in football.
agree!! would rather we done a similar deal with real or a swop for diarra or even kaka!!!
 
If it's a loan impossible to dress it other that a terrible piece of business.

A 3 or 4 million saving in wages is nothing In Terms of our turnover now especially when you consider the huge amount we stand to loose through player sales by showing such weakness.

Also people don't seem to understand how bad loans are in terms of ruining chances of selling players permanently. It also showns great weakness and ruins resale values. Examples. We were offered 6 million for nedum by sunderland last season. We wanted 8 million. Had a great season on loan we are now being offered 3 million. Robinho signed for 32 million. Had a great first season in the prem. Sent on loan sold for 16 - 18 million. Bellamy on loan - worthless. Same bridge.

You never get more money you only get less. It also makes us look like a soft touch, a walkover and weak in the Market in regards to player negotiation. Why would anyone sign tevez when we let 25 million players go on loan and pay their wages ?

Some people are very naive when they look at this situation.
 
appreciate all views - but we need to raise our sights


the improvements we have made mean that Spurs are not our challengers this season - with or without ade

we are a bit fucked if anyone really think that we will finish below spuds - if that is a case we will likely be 6th

and as he cannot play against us I think that it is a good move - he might help take a few points of the scum and chelski and that could be the difference in us winning the league
 
Rubyappeal said:
SWP's back said:
lionheart said:
Rather worrying...
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Lewis backed spurs to win the prem last december. The pillock hasn't a clue.

That rant about spuds winning the league was hilarious.
He's admitted publicly that spurs are on his journalistic "patch"....it seems he'll say anything to stay in arry's favour.
Interesting that Ade going to spurs is now being portrayed as some kind of "masterstroke" by arry...the final piece in the master plan...the awesome attacking machine that is totting ham.
Totally ignoring the fact that spurs have the second dodgiest keeper in the league,and a "world class" centre half made of glass.

Remember all the "mercenary troublemaker" shit thrown at us when we signed him?don't see too much of that now......dont know what hold arry has over the fleet st mob,but he can't ever seem to do any wrong or get called out for a dodgy signing.

Oh and breaking they also brilliant wage structure for him on a LOAN
 
alera said:
If it's a loan impossible to dress it other that a terrible piece of business.

A 3 or 4 million saving in wages is nothing In Terms of our turnover now especially when you consider the huge amount we stand to loose through player sales by showing such weakness.

Also people don't seem to understand how bad loans are in terms of ruining chances of selling players permanently. It's shown great weakness and ruins resale values. Examples. We were offered 6 million for nedum by sunderland last season. We wanted 8 million. Had a great season on loan we are now being offered 3 million. Robinho signed for 32 million. Had a great first season in the prem. Sent on loan sold for 16 - 18 million. Bellamy on loan - worthless. Same bridge.

You never get more money you only get less. It also makes us look like a soft touch, a walkover and weak in the Market in regards to player negotiation. Why would anyone sign tevez when we let 25 million players go on loan and pay their wages ?

Some people are very naive when they look at this situation.

So we keep him, pay him all his wages, and stick him in the reserves? What will that do to his resale value?
 
If we didn't act like pussies and held our nerve it wouldn't come to that. When he feels like it he is a top player he proved that last season at real

What we are being offered is an insulting piss take just about every top club in Europe would take the reported terms. So why take them from a club that could compete with us in our own league ?

Its total bullshit that spurs are the only club that would be interested in him on those sort of terms.

I would actually argue the 3 or 4 million we will save is insignificant I. Terms of the loss we will take when selling tevez and other players due to the weakness we are showing.

Personally I hope we are using their interest to draw out interest from other clubs abroad. Look at nedum and swp one club make and offer and another 2 or 3 come in.
 
alera said:
If we didn't act like pussies and held our nerve it wouldn't come to that. When he feels like it he is a top player he proved that last season at real

What we are being offered is an insulting piss take just about every top club in Europe would take the reported terms. So why take them from a club that could compete with us in our own league.

Its total bullshit that surs are the only club that would be interested in him on those sort of terms.

Every football club in Europe knows we want to get rid of Adebayor. Do you really think we have a long list of potential suitors and we're choosing to loan him to a rival?
 
alera said:
If we didn't act like pussies and held our nerve it wouldn't come to that. When he feels like it he is a top player he proved that last season at real

What we are being offered is an insulting piss take just about every top club in Europe would take the reported terms. So why take them from a club that could compete with us in our own league.

Its total bullshit that surs are the only club that would be interested in him on those sort of terms.


right thats it, fuck off Cook, fuck off Mancini, you know absolutely fuck all as manager and CEO of a top football club, alera knows everything and is coming in to do both of your jobs
 
Tottenham's defense is so world class that they won't be scored against. It's not like all they do is attack.
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