It's your "opinion" which is exactly the same as the lies he has been gaslighting the country with for two years.

Apologies if you got it from Rupert Murdoch or Nigel Farage instead.
MY opinion - formed from reading/listening to opinion from both sides of the argument, from many differing points of view. I filtered out most of the extremes of opinion as best I could and came to my own conclusions. Sorry if they don't line up with your ideals, but that's just the way opinions work.
 
MY opinion - formed from reading/listening to opinion from both sides of the argument, from many differing points of view. I filtered out most of the extremes of opinion as best I could and came to my own conclusions. Sorry if they don't line up with your ideals, but that's just the way opinions work.
How can you hope to have a balanced opinion by listening to both sides of the argument? All that does is confuse you.
 
I can see what's going on.

You or anyone else on this forum has no idea how or if I even voted in the Brexit referendum. I simply stated above what transpired with the negotiations post referendum result and that it turned into a shambles, and that maybe it wouldn't have if the remaining EU nations had been more sanguine over the whole affair rather than looking to punish us for it.

By all means blame UK politicians for getting us to that point, but don't absolve the EU of any blame for this mess we now find ourselves in.
Did you really, really think that the EU would help us and play ball? Seriously you thought that?
 
MY opinion - formed from reading/listening to opinion from both sides of the argument, from many differing points of view. I filtered out most of the extremes of opinion as best I could and came to my own conclusions. Sorry if they don't line up with your ideals, but that's just the way opinions work.
You can't go round claiming to be some kind of balanced or sensible person when you just claimed "the EU are punishing us" like some kind of pound shop Farage, mate.
 
Well those conditions were known beforehand so cannot be considered punitive.

On a more serious note, it came as an absolute shock to David Davis the Brexit Minister at the time. Literally turned up to the first meeting with zero briefing and no papers and expecting the EU to roll over.

Our political and media class were, and still are, incredibly deluded.
 

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