Probably something to do with having three players man marking him and no team mates willing to cross the halfway line in support.No. But then I also didn't think that Aguero would be as shit and disinterested as he was at the Bernabau.
We'll see what happens with Aguero, but I'm fairly sure next season he won't be the first choice number 9. I appreciate what you're saying about supporting casts, but respectfully I think that that's kind of obfuscating the point I'm making. Big players turn games and turn up in big moments. Since 13/14 Aguero hasn't done that nearly enough.
Messi was the focal point even before Zlatan showed up. Zlatan just didn't fit. The Barca players were passing the ball at a level Zlatan wasn't used to. Frankly for a while there if you didn't play at Barca, you couldn't phantom how much better the passing and movement was. Every star who joined Barca almost always needed time to adjust to the level of play. It was just higher at Barca than anywhere else.I believe many other of the Barcelona team are not good enough. Yes Messi is certainly on the decline but still a magical player. He's not the problem at Barcelona, not yet. Barcelona have been on the decline for three years. The club stood still and you can never do that in football. And as the for Zlatan, he was very poor at Barcelona in open play. He scored goals yes, but his play was unbelievably bad at times.Barcelona would often be keeping the ball brilliantly then some nutter would give it to Zlatan who would miss control it or try a first time pass only to fail miserably haha. Pep rightly got rid of him, after this he made Messi the vocal point and that's when Messi really shone. It was one of the best things Pep did.
Unbelievable stats, what a player he is. And lets not forget, he's been really loyal to City. Many thought he would of moved to Real quite early. They was all wrong, and everytime he was linked Aguero squashed the rumours. I would certainly rather have Kun then Sanchez. Both are great but Aguero is a blue.Since 13/14 Aguero has played 111 Prem games and scored 83 goals he's only scored a shitty 28 this season as well tut tut.
Do you think he's even playing well?
I don't. He's scoring, but he's not playing like his usual self, or his old self. He's taking 3 or 4 chances to get a goal, he's not terrorising defences like he does at his best - there's no spark. He's left behind in loads of moves and is nowhere near the box when the ball comes in, he's not really linking play like Pep would want.
If I was Pep I'd think that Jesus, in the form he arrived, would have at least 10 in 10 too given the opportunities given to Aguero, so why not drop him?
It might seem harsh but Pep isn't a City fan, he's not got blue tinted glasses when it comes to Aguero.
Unbelievable post, yes i remember Messi playing centrally but after Zlatan he did it a lot more I seem to remember. Jesus is the real deal, I often heard how 'Jesus scored tap ins now everyone thinks hes amazing' I often tell these people, forget the goals he scored. I for one wasn't judging his potential based on them goals. I see a player who when he had the ball was so gifted. Mix this with his energy and confidence, this guys a star in the making. People masturbate over Rashford, especially the commentary teams. Jesus makes him look Championship level technically. I cant wait to see more of the kid.Messi was the focal point even before Zlatan showed up. Zlatan just didn't fit. The Barca players were passing the ball at a level Zlatan wasn't used to. Frankly for a while there if you didn't play at Barca, you couldn't phantom how much better the passing and movement was. Every star who joined Barca almost always needed time to adjust to the level of play. It was just higher at Barca than anywhere else.
I think Pep is trying to do with GJ, what he did with Messi. He thinks he has found the next gem and he is handing the reigns over to him.
He did it with Messi at 19, GJ is about the same age. Everyone will question this decision, but if GJ turns out to be the next World Best for a decade. It wouldn't have mattered who got axed in the process.
If GJ doesn't then Pep might leave City failing to win anything major. Its a balsy decision. It worked once. If it works again, Pep's genius will be confirmed, of it doesn't, he'll be slightly tarnished bit with enough money to rectify the problem in a few years.
So a lot of the Angst over Aguero really is all about Pep's Longview.
All the pro Aguero arguments and better were made about Ronaldihno, Eto'o, Deco and a host of other fantastic players Pep moved on at their peaks.
So folks need to relax and let this play out.
Unbelievable stats, what a player he is. And lets not forget, he's been really loyal to City. Many thought he would of moved to Real quite early. They was all wrong, and everytime he was linked Aguero squashed the rumours. I would certainly rather have Kun then Sanchez. Both are great but Aguero is a blue.
Oh btw, I didn't mean to come off as saying Messi played centrally when Zlatan was there, coz he barely did. Pep moved him Centrally the season after Zlatan, and the season before Zlatan, Two was the Central striker.Unbelievable post, yes i remember Messi playing centrally but after Zlatan he did it a lot more I seem to remember. Jesus is the real deal, I often heard how 'Jesus scored tap ins now everyone thinks hes amazing' I often tell these people, forget the goals he scored. I for one wasn't judging his potential based on them goals. I see a player who when he had the ball was so gifted. Mix this with his energy and confidence, this guys a star in the making. People masturbate over Rashford, especially the commentary teams. Jesus makes him look Championship level technically. I cant wait to see more of the kid.
Guardiola has never played with 2 central strikers.Pep moved him Centrally the season after Zlatan, and the season before Zlatan, Two was the Central striker.
Messi was the focal point even before Zlatan showed up. Zlatan just didn't fit. The Barca players were passing the ball at a level Zlatan wasn't used to. Frankly for a while there if you didn't play at Barca, you couldn't phantom how much better the passing and movement was. Every star who joined Barca almost always needed time to adjust to the level of play. It was just higher at Barca than anywhere else.
I think Pep is trying to do with GJ, what he did with Messi. He thinks he has found the next gem and he is handing the reigns over to him.
He did it with Messi at 19, GJ is about the same age. Everyone will question this decision, but if GJ turns out to be the next World Best for a decade. It wouldn't have mattered who got axed in the process.
If GJ doesn't then Pep might leave City failing to win anything major. Its a balsy decision. It worked once. If it works again, Pep's genius will be confirmed, of it doesn't, he'll be slightly tarnished bit with enough money to rectify the problem in a few years.
So a lot of the Angst over Aguero really is all about Pep's Longview.
All the pro Aguero arguments and better were made about Ronaldihno, Eto'o, Deco and a host of other fantastic players Pep moved on at their peaks.
So folks need to relax and let this play out.
my thoughts exactly ..... and if Sergio leaves add Mbappe to the list - sorted ;-)Look, just sign him!
He's a statement of intent signing.
A singing that City once again mean business,
We missed out on him last time because he went to Barcelona.
Then the FFP fine cost us getting him again and he went to Avenal.
We have been after him for years.
Yes, I haven't got a clue where we'll fit him in, but that's not my problem.
But what I do know that is that Sanchez alongside Sergio, Jesus, Silva, De Bruyne, Sterling, perm any formation, will rip other teams apart.
Get 2 full backs as well, and a centre half if Vimny is sadly finished. Hope he isn't. And were done.
The wage bill is going to be slashed this Summer with Yaya and all the other's going, so wages won't be a problem. Neither will transfer money.
We just need to make sure we get into the CL.
Sign him!
For the record, I think very few "want" Aguero gone. PB perhaps. A larger % just think he will leave either because they believe either 1) Pep doesn't fancy him, or
2) Aguero wouldn't fancy being a part of Pep's competition/likely substitute future.
That said, most of those who "want" Aguero here, pretend that a majority of the people they are arguing against belong to the " I want Aguero gone group." Nothing could be farther from the truth.
For the record, I belong to the @Akiva and @tolmie's hairdoo group, that thinks Aguero would say "fuk this rotation shit, I'm out. Hasta luego!"
Now that I've attacked the @aguero93:20. And @Pablo1 school of thought over what the argument is and should be :p, let me go ahead and "Trump" this discussion by attacking both sides of the argument.
I disagree with a growing number of those in the Aguero is leaving camp who believe Aguero is not playing as well as he alway has. Factually speaking, he is playing at about the same level he has always played at. Frankly, in a lot of ways he is actually better this season than he had ever been before. His hustle is up, his participation is up, and he is doing more than just hanging around the last man. Sire there has been some growing pains, but overall he has been a similar net positive this year as he has been in any year barring the 2014/2015. Season. When his play bordered on Suarez levels. If we are being honest that year was simply a slightly exaggerated peak.
What we have now is his normal peak. And this has been this way in every other season he has been here. What has changed isn't Aguero's performance oversee, but rather the perception of his performances.
Sure, he doesn't seem as fast as he once was, but yet hos passing is significantly better now than say in 2013. He arrives at the near post better now than he ever has, bit he doesn't turn defenders as often as he did in 2013.
The way he achieves things have changed. His production and impact hasn't. So the "Nothing but Aguero" crew are right, he is still very much the exact same player impact wise. His style has just changed ever so slightly. Yet the "Aguero is Gone" (My folks, even though we may have differing reasons why we believe this) seem to be mistaking a change in style (a natural occurrence as any player ages) for a loss in form.
This assumption is wrong. You simply have to judge a player by impact. Not imaginary believes of how well he used to turn defenders. (In being hyperbolic there, bit y'all get the point).
So what am I saying?
Simples! All sides have a legitimate point :-)
True. I just think Pep thinks he sees something. And I'm not inclined to doubt him. Aguero is comfortably a top 10 striker in the world (and I'm being extremely conservative there), and a 19 year old came in for him in 3 games and it seemed the team actually improved substantially! It stands to reason that if a 19 year old that could make an improvement on the absence of a bona fide top 5 striker, said 19 year old is quite likely to be special.I agree, however, Messi had played well over 100 games for Barcelona and scored 50+ goals before Pep's first season, so it was nowhere near as big a risk as going all in on Jesus, with his 3 games in Europe, would be.
It does indeed but personal records do not make a team, otherwise shearer would have 5 quadruples to his name and every accolade known to man!
True. I just think Pep thinks he sees something. And I'm not inclined to doubt him. Aguero is comfortably a top 10 striker in the world (and I'm being extremely conservative there), and a 19 year old came in for him in 3 games and it seemed the team actually improved substantially! It stands to reason that if a 19 year old that could make an improvement on the absence of a bona fide top 5 striker, said 19 year old is quite likely to be special.
Its a huge risk, but I sense Pep was leaning that way before GJ got injured.
Sanchez to be fair I'm a bit ambivalent about. I'm annoyed we are trying to get him now instead of when I suggested it back during the FFP squeeze. :( So I'm a bit annoyed at the love he is getting now, when most thought I was dumb to want to improve on the best attack 3 years ago.A very very good post and I agree.
I do think Augero is a better finisher than Sanchez as well but Im sure others would disagree. But that is the reason i would rather retain Aguero and not buy Sanchez.....if however we could have both and both players be happy then cool. If run aint happy there is nothing the club can do and would ave to let him go but Im not sure creating that situation by buying Sanchez is worth it.
Also where does Mbappe fit into this if we are legitimately after him....surely we would try and buy both Sanchez and him??????