Andy Burnham | Manchester Mayor

Blue Maverick said:
I have no issue with FOC using bus passes, however, the matchday bus is £8 for me and others yet FOC can use their bus pass and get on for nothing, when you look at the demographic of people using it I’d say nearly 50% aren’t paying. I think as it’s not completely funded by Bee network they should charge a nominal fee of £2 return, this would allow the price to be reduced for the rest of us. As it gets more popular you old bastards will outnumber us,the bus will be running at a loss and smell of Werthers ;)
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Normal bus travel for foc's isn't free. The bus companies/council claim the money off the government. I do not know, but i would think the match day buses are the same.
The Wethers however are not free.
 
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Churchlawtonblue said:
An underground in Manchester is pie in the sky wishful thinking? The cost would be eye watering with little benefit.

I wish politicians would be more honest when they annouce such schemes.
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It was first proposed when HS2 was meant to be coming to Piccadilly. It was dismissed then as no one had the billions of pounds to do it.
This clown actually said that he wants a report, feasibility and costing to be ready in 2030. In 2022 a report stated it could not be done, if it was, it would take 13 years and cost over 5 billion pounds
He is just another gob shite politician. He knows it cannot be done and no one will pay for it
 
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Blue Maverick said:
I have no issue with FOC using bus passes, however, the matchday bus is £8 for me and others yet FOC can use their bus pass and get on for nothing, when you look at the demographic of people using it I’d say nearly 50% aren’t paying. I think as it’s not completely funded by Bee network they should charge a nominal fee of £2 return, this would allow the price to be reduced for the rest of us. As it gets more popular you old bastards will outnumber us,the bus will be running at a loss and smell of Werthers ;)
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Over a season, should make up for losing the WFA
 
Blue Mist said:
Normal bus travel for foc's isn't free. The bus companies/council claim the money off the government. I do not know, but i would think the match day buses are the same.
The Wethers however are not free.
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Maybe do a crowd funded for the Wethers these FOCs want everything free these days
 
remember arthur mann said:
If City and the council hadn't stopped the parking they wouldn't need to use the bus.
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tell me about somewhere - anywhere - where that hasn't become the case. Govt's love ICE vehicles ( road tax, fuel tax etc ) Local Govt loves cars - ULEZ and similar charges, parking charges etc yet both do their best to make their use difficult. At the end of the day they want us in expensive ( more purchase tax ) EV's using public charge points like the one's near me where you pay to charge AND to park ( local govt approved ) and as soon as they get enough on the streets the road taxes will be adjusted to make up any perceived shortfalls. Buses should be free - train travel should be cheaper than car travel thats the way you get people onto them - when we go to Bournemouth for a week I have to go to Northallerton I will need to pay for a weeks parking - £22 - return train ticket at best is £61 return if I book really early then cab at the far end about a tenner each way. So if I can get the stars to align at best for two of us its £164 and we still have to get about when down there so in reality you can be looking at £300 travel for a week. I can do all we need to on a tank of diesel = £75. Its been like that for years with public transport as a result of privatisation
 
kismet said:
The departure of Sasha Lord last month, the nightime economic adviser to Burnham got little coverage.
He resigned as the Arts Council asked him to return £400k his company was granted not so long ago. His application for the money was dodgy.
Lord was appointed by Burnham, backed by him, he became his right hand man and they were as thick as thieves.
Lord has been totally discredited and by association so has Burnham, who I would not trust as far as I could throw him
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More goings on
 
bluethrunthru said:
tell me about somewhere - anywhere - where that hasn't become the case. Govt's love ICE vehicles ( road tax, fuel tax etc ) Local Govt loves cars - ULEZ and similar charges, parking charges etc yet both do their best to make their use difficult. At the end of the day they want us in expensive ( more purchase tax ) EV's using public charge points like the one's near me where you pay to charge AND to park ( local govt approved ) and as soon as they get enough on the streets the road taxes will be adjusted to make up any perceived shortfalls. Buses should be free - train travel should be cheaper than car travel thats the way you get people onto them - when we go to Bournemouth for a week I have to go to Northallerton I will need to pay for a weeks parking - £22 - return train ticket at best is £61 return if I book really early then cab at the far end about a tenner each way. So if I can get the stars to align at best for two of us its £164 and we still have to get about when down there so in reality you can be looking at £300 travel for a week. I can do all we need to on a tank of diesel = £75. Its been like that for years with public transport as a result of privatisation
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That's why they call it, Rip off Britain.
 
bluethrunthru said:
tell me about somewhere - anywhere - where that hasn't become the case. Govt's love ICE vehicles ( road tax, fuel tax etc ) Local Govt loves cars - ULEZ and similar charges, parking charges etc yet both do their best to make their use difficult. At the end of the day they want us in expensive ( more purchase tax ) EV's using public charge points like the one's near me where you pay to charge AND to park ( local govt approved ) and as soon as they get enough on the streets the road taxes will be adjusted to make up any perceived shortfalls. Buses should be free - train travel should be cheaper than car travel thats the way you get people onto them - when we go to Bournemouth for a week I have to go to Northallerton I will need to pay for a weeks parking - £22 - return train ticket at best is £61 return if I book really early then cab at the far end about a tenner each way. So if I can get the stars to align at best for two of us its £164 and we still have to get about when down there so in reality you can be looking at £300 travel for a week. I can do all we need to on a tank of diesel = £75. Its been like that for years with public transport as a result of privatisation
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Mrs KS is planning two trips. Brum by train and Malaga by air. Guess which is cheaper!
 
bluethrunthru said:
tell me about somewhere - anywhere - where that hasn't become the case. Govt's love ICE vehicles ( road tax, fuel tax etc ) Local Govt loves cars - ULEZ and similar charges, parking charges etc yet both do their best to make their use difficult. At the end of the day they want us in expensive ( more purchase tax ) EV's using public charge points like the one's near me where you pay to charge AND to park ( local govt approved ) and as soon as they get enough on the streets the road taxes will be adjusted to make up any perceived shortfalls. Buses should be free - train travel should be cheaper than car travel thats the way you get people onto them - when we go to Bournemouth for a week I have to go to Northallerton I will need to pay for a weeks parking - £22 - return train ticket at best is £61 return if I book really early then cab at the far end about a tenner each way. So if I can get the stars to align at best for two of us its £164 and we still have to get about when down there so in reality you can be looking at £300 travel for a week. I can do all we need to on a tank of diesel = £75. Its been like that for years with public transport as a result of privatisation
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Couldn't agree more, I only use public transport if out for a drink.

I am travelling to Nottingham next month for a Stag Do, 3 hours each way in the car but, with it being a boozy trip I booked train travel for 2 of us for double what it'd cost in fuel but 6 hours to get back to the Flyde cost including a replacement bus Sheffield to Manchester.

I could double that cost again on an earlier/later train route to save 90 mins in the return trip but, it's bad enough paying £85 for 2 of us (3 changes Ew).
 
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Blue Llama said:
Anyone able to tell me what he has done to improve Manchrster, life, transport etc, etc?
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It's Bev Craig you should be asking about.

She runs the council and ultimatelty decides what happens in Manchester

AB is GM and only involved in planni g for things that affect all 10 regions within it like transport, infrastructure etc.
 
blue b4 the moon said:
Couldn't agree more, I only use public transport if out for a drink.

I am travelling to Nottingham next month for a Stag Do, 3 hours each way in the car but, with it being a boozy trip I booked train travel for 2 of us for double what it'd cost in fuel but 6 hours to get back to the Flyde cost including a replacement bus Sheffield to Manchester.

I could double that cost again on an earlier/later train route to save 90 mins in the return trip but, it's bad enough paying £85 for 2 of us (3 changes Ew).
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Picked daughter up earlier - half five - not a single charger in use. There was a guy checking them he was in a van with BLINK on the side who I assume run them ??? and he was in a ICE Berlingo !!
 
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