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Angelino
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Neville Kneville
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Cancelo is a quicker version of Angelino which is vital in the current set up.Torres needs a season as an attacking player in our set up before he is to be considered to be converted as a wing back/full back.
Yes, I don't mean throw him in there, but he appears to have some natural ability defensively.
It's a real pity re Angelino imo.
He's almost brilliant as a wingback but the stuff he lacks is stuff we really need.
Gingers Dad
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TaggartCould be, could be. Definitely up there.
Gayle
Redmond
Pointon
Yes, I don't mean throw him in there, but he appears to have some natural ability defensively.
It's a real pity re Angelino imo.
He's almost brilliant as a wingback but the stuff he lacks is stuff we really need.
Agreed
Neville Kneville
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Taggart
Gayle
Redmond
Pointon
Close. Taggart, swings it that way, but Pointon managed to do ok vs s few decent players without any Fernandihos to help. Gayle & Otamendi cancel each other out & Redmond IS Garcia but a bit better in the air.
Who does the worst offside trap, would be another challenge, then Ian Brightwell might get in.
I haven't seen anything that says its 10m for Harrison, they all say with a view to making it permanent and if the fee is 10m then it is what is, no one else seemingly wanted him so what do you do?
How do you know we triggered all of the add-on fees for Sane?
You are aware of amortization right, so yes we have made a 'profit'.
Lopes, 'peak value'? where are you getting this from, hes done nothing but be bounced around Europe outside of one good season since he left so id say getting 10m in the door is a good move.
Denayer has turned out good but he always had talent but questionable attitude, he has turned it around and lets wait and see if he moves before we jump to any conclusions. Rekik hasn't really improved and isn't likely to go for tens of millions.
Luiz got us profit on our original price we paid, secured his work permit and allowed us flexibility to potentially purchase him for 25m which if post lockdown form is anything to go by will be a bargain. Struggling to see any real issues with players we have sold since Txiki joined in all honesty.
Odd ones such as Dzeko and Tevez are hard to count as there is a lot more than just the price involved in those deals.
I haven't counted them as they are not profits as such but we did well with getting rid of Rodwell, Javi Garcia and Nolito etc for not far off what we paid which is also pretty good going.
If I remember rightly Lopez did not have much time left on his contract and whilst there has been an increase in price paid for potential back then experience was more important and he was still young He has since had a few good seasons but a few season that have been ok I dont think he is worth a lot more than we sold him for and you cannot keep players for nearly 10 years till they reach there peak age in hope that you make a few million more
Denayer has come good but its taken years since he has left and He would not have reached that potential on our bench and even now is he elite level ?
55m all in all isn't good enough imo. The injury could explain why the initial fee is low, but the overall fee should have nothing to do with the injury. If Sane turns out as good as we think he can be, the cap being 55m isn't close to good enough. The Hazard deal worth €160m and Sane going for almost €100m less, there has been something that has gone wrong.
Angelino went to Leipzig with an option to buy of 25m and after a brilliant campaign, is going for less than that in a market where teams are desperate for LBs.
Not sure teams are any more desperate for left backs than any other window its true to say that clubs struggle with left backs but thats because the game has evolved so LB is probably the hardest position on the pitch and different to others. Clubs are also desperate not to spend given the current situation.
But you can't say that; Sane was matching Hazard's numbers in the PL. He's 4 years younger and has tremendous marketability. I'm just not happy at the idea that we will only make 55m if Sane becomes a world beater.
There was a chance of Hazard going to other clubs there was no chance of Sane going anywhere but Bayern
You've made a mistake with Harrison. If he has a spectacular season in the PL, we only make 10m because of the option to buy for Leeds. We've essentially capped ourselves if he has a great season. We haven't made a profit on Sane yet; we have paid 46.5m for him as he triggered his addons which seems to be team related, We have only received 40.5m initially, it remains to be seen whether Sane will trigger all his addons at Bayern to make the deal a profit.
You've mentioned some good deals and some bad ones. Lopes for 10m wasn't great because his peak value was closer to 25m. Denayer and Rekik were sold too cheap; that will become evident once we see Napoli sign Denayer for far more than 5m. Iheanacho was the only deal that stood out but Leicester can probably sell him for close to 20m. Luiz' value is 20m but that was an entirely different situation with the work permit and inserted buy back clause
According to transfer market we sold Rekik for more than his market value at the time and he is still worth less than 10 million years later and is not at a top club hardly missing out on much